MAFF plugin issue

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Kedrin

MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-26, 11:58

I have been using Palemoon now for several years and its been a great browser, thanks btw!
I recently updated to Windows 10 and kept using palemoon x86 v25 and had no issues.
I recently decided with finding the announcement about moving away from Mozilla's rendering engine to test the beta, and move to a 64bit browser.

I have had no issues so far besides Google being a d**K with sending me to their old layout, the Firefox compatibility fixed that tho.
I didn't know where to post this exactly, I am having an issue with a plugin and wasn't sure if it would be the beta, or x64 or the plugin itself.
My understanding is for the most part all Firefox variations can open an MAFF ( Mozilla archive format file ) by default without plugins to support it.
If you want to save one of those files you need to have the plugin, which saving them in 26 b1 works ok.
However It can not open these files, it just keeps asking how do I want to open them as if i downloaded an file from the web.

Any thoughts?

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Re: 26 Beta 1

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-26, 12:10

If it's a plugin, then you're likely running into the restriction of running a 64-bit browser requiring a 64-bit plugin to work. if available, install a 64-bit version of the plugin, or switch to a 32-bit version of the browser.
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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-26, 12:44

The plugin does not need to even be installed to view maff files, the plugin is only for saving(creating the file) which is working perfectly.
Trying to view the created maff files which firefox is suppose to be able to view on a clean load, does not work.
It keeps asking where i want to save the file to.

Edit:
Pale moon asks how i should handle the maff file, open with or save.
Previously I would choose open with Palemoon, and check always use this.
Now doing that just causes Palemoon to open in infinite amount of tabs and crash in stead of rendering the maff file as a web page.

Kedrin

Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-26, 17:43

Just an update, it does this on x86 builds to even without the plugin.

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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Wezarus » 2015-08-26, 18:26

First of all, I think you're confusing "extension" and "plugin". An extension is designed to run inside the browser and doesn't care, if the browser is 32-bit or 64-bit. A plugin is an external library that the browser has to load and that is why its architecture (32-bit or 64-bit) has to match that of the browser.

That said, I guess you're using the MAFF extension? I just tested it by saving this page as a MAFF, made Pale Moon work offline (Press Alt->File menu->Work Offline) and then opened the saved MAFF without issues. So, how exactly are you trying to open such a file?

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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-26, 18:41

Ok the "extension" is not even required to open maff files, it just creates them and gives you a quick way to associate the files with Firefox.
I have always just right clicked the file and choose open with, and selected pale moon since version 20 something
I as stated before started getting this problem with the beta 1 version of 26 which apparently my post was renamed by a mod to Maff plugin issue.
The plugin is not the issue, as firefox opens these files natively with
Even without the MAF extension, Mozilla browsers are able to display the contents of MAFF archives natively, using the jar: protocol.
Now online or offline as you suggest all I get is the attached image.
Clicking ok does nothing but open a new tab asking the very same question.

I understand the browser is beta, I didn't see where to file a bug or if the support was abandoned.
I have since tried the 32bit version of version 26 with the same issue, online or offline.
I have rolled back to version 25.7 and it opens them perfectly without the extension.
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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-27, 15:57

Pale Moon 25.7 will act exactly the same way.
I assume you've previously set up the browser to specifically open the archives this way.

(A quick look inside the extension shows specific document loader js files which are bound do target app GUID, so it would never work in Pale Moon to begin with afaict)
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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-27, 18:20

We are referring to the same extension right? http://maf.mozdev.org/
Which I have been using since Palemoon 20.X...

I just did a clean load of 25.6 X86 on a clients computer I just reloaded with Windows 7 X6bit, installed the extension, saved a webpage to my desktop.
Right clicking the created file I choose open with, browse to Palemoon's exe, and selected always open with and it works.
It opens, Displays the archived web page and even presents a link at the top from where it was archived from.

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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by SvenG » 2015-08-27, 18:34

That extension is weird, it has a few Firefox GUID entries in chrome.manifest but without fixing these it works (PM4L 25.7.0), at least saving and opening maf files, didn't test further so far. If I add Pale Moons GUID (which is the only Issue I found so far) I can no longer open maff files and have the behavior the OP describes. Needs more investigating...

I can also confirm that opening does not work in Pale Moon 26b1.

EDIT: Reinstalled extension with changed GUIDs and now it work again.
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Re: MAFF plugin issue

Post by Kedrin » 2015-08-27, 18:54

Just for an FYI in case it some how goes down that path, I have not modified anything on 26 b1 (Browser or extension)