Privacy Badger v1.0 incompatible

[floalma]

I've just installed Privacy Badger v1.0.3 (latest version) and it's incompatible.

Nevertheless, on this page, you can Privacy Badger was fixed for its incompatibility.

https://addons.palemoon.org/resources/incompatible/

How can I run PB 1.0.3 without any issue ?

[LimboSlam]

I've just installed Privacy Badger v1.0.3 (latest version) and it's incompatible.

Nevertheless, on this page, you can Privacy Badger was fixed for its incompatibility.

https://addons.palemoon.org/resources/incompatible/

How can I run PB 1.0.3 without any issue ?

You can't, it's not compatible with us. I will go ahead and report this here. For now, I suggest you stick with the one I posted/uploaded earlier that still works with us. I also suggest you direct your complaint/ask a question here to see what's up; if we're all persistent, maybe they'll look into this thoroughly.

[CharmCityCrab]

I note that is being done under aegis of the Electronic Frontiers Foundation, which is a non-profit that relies on donations.

If anyone happens to have a potential large donation to push in their direction if they develop for Pale Moon, or a current recurring large donation that they have the potential to stop making if the EFF doesn't develop for Pale Moon, that might influence whether they are willing to make the fairly minor changes necessary to get full compatibility with our favorite browser. Obviously, it'd be the type of thing that'd have to be done with tact, so that it's understood without coming off like you're using your money to get what you want (Although that's what you'd be doing ).

Although, really, you'd think supporting a browser like Pale Moon would be something that the EFF would just want to do in general. They are really big on user freedom and privacy online. That's essentially what they do- advocate for that stuff. Now, which browser is closer to those ideals- *Google* Chrome, which they support with their extension, or Pale Moon? I realize Chrome has a large user base and they want to give all those users access to something that protects their privacy regardless of their browser choice or opinion of the company that makes said browser, *but* you'd think they'd also support smaller independent browsers on principle, too, to some degree. Some privacy advocacy organization is basically telling us that we need to support and use the browser of an anti-privacy corporation in order to use the privacy advocacy group's extension? Doesn't seem right to me. Granted, Mozilla Firefox is supported too, and they aren't exactly Google Chrome (Although they're trying their best to be), but they are still a corporate browser taking away user choice.

I mean, the EFF is a non-profit. They aren't supposed to be making decisions based on their bottom line, they are supposed to be in existence to do the right thing as they perceive it, and supporting users of browsers that aren't owned by big corporations that want to suck down your user data rather than just the corporate browsers seems like it's what the EFF is supposed to be all about- especially when we're talking about a relatively small amount of time and resources needed to adapt the Firefox version of their extension to become a Pale Moon extension (Either making the existing extension compatible, or maintaining a Pale Moon exclusive version on the Pale Moon add-on site).

I actually, in the couple months since I chimed in asking about the extension earlier on the thread, have installed it in Pale Moon. I don't get a logo in any of the menu bars, so I don't know if it's actually doing anything, but it did install and is listed as enabled in the add-ons menu.

It lowers my opinion of the EFF that they won't consider making a few minor changes to their code to allow Pale Moon users to get the full benefit of their extension. It'd not like they'd have to recode from scratch. They'd just need to use the Firefox version as a base, make a few small changes, and they'd have a Pale Moon version, easy as cake- at least until Mozilla implements it's decision to completely change the way they do extensions down the road.

[John connor]

I also suggest you direct your complaint/ask a question here to see what's up; if we're all persistent, maybe they'll look into this thoroughly.

I get a 404 with that link.

[CharmCityCrab]

I also suggest you direct your complaint/ask a question here to see what's up; if we're all persistent, maybe they'll look into this thoroughly.

I get a 404 with that link.

I think this is what was intended to be linked to:

https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadger ... ssues/595/

[LimboSlam]

Yes, sorry about that. Still can't get this work though.

[LimboSlam]

Seems like v1.0.3 actually installs, did they change something at the last minute? But still no icon. I have been messing around with the install.rdf and still can't get a proper install; error right and left, corrupted file and incompatibility warning sign.

I'm doing something wrong, huh? It's umm, been a long day for me, so maybe I'm just tired. Could someone give this another try, please?

Oh and v1.0.3 only installs for their official site with Firefox Compatibility enabled, not AMO.

[Vultural]

I downed your version to my Desktop
then tried to drag it into About:addons.
Got the message -

Privacy Badger Firefox could not be installed because
it is not compatible with Pale Moon 25.7.3.

Not complaining, that's just what I got.

[LimboSlam]

I downed your version to my Desktop
then tried to drag it into About:addons.
Got the message -

Privacy Badger Firefox could not be installed because
it is not compatible with Pale Moon 25.7.3.

Not complaining, that's just what I got.

Weird, it's suppose to open up just like a regular add-on would when you install it. Don't know why it's going to the download folder/arrow? Even then I was able get it to install in Pale Moon, did you pick "open with" which would use your default browser to install it with. Did you make sure you installed the add-on "Disable Add-on Compatibility Checks" and have automatic updates for add-ons off?

[Vultural]

Ha!
I tried this in my wife's XP and it works fine.
In my unit - Vista - no. (Vista haters pump fists now)
I shall investigate further.
Thank you for helping me.

[LimboSlam]

Ha!
I tried this in my wife's XP and it works fine.
In my unit - Vista - no. (Vista haters pump fists now)
I shall investigate further.
Thank you for helping me.

I have Vista and it's working as should be, I think the reason why you got that message was because you forgot to install the add-on called, "Disable Add-on Compatibility Checks," which reinstates the extensions.checkCompatibility preference so it's able to be installed/not blocked for being so called incompatible with your version of the browser, Pale Moon in this case. I also took down the attachment/downloadable XPI file and then put a fresh one back up, just see if that made a difference, I can still download it and use it fully without issues.

[Vultural]

I do not think your old xpi was faulty.
More likely I bungled the install.
Nevertheless, it is working fine now.
Thank you again for helping me.

[Weishaupt]

Any news of the possibility of future versions becoming compatible with Pale Moon? Still running the older version that is recommended here...

[LimboSlam]

Any news of the possibility of future versions becoming compatible with Pale Moon? Still running the older version that is recommended here...

By the sound of this thread, no. The PB devs are planing to implement WebExtensionAPI, which the Pale Moon devs have no plans supporting a fourth extension format, yet. Though very unlikely.

[moon convert]

Hello. I've been following this thread for a while. Based on what LimboSlam said about compatibility of new versions

By the sound of this [ur=https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadgerfirefox/url]thread[/url], no. The PB devs are planing to implement WebExtensionAPI, which the Pale Moon devs have no plans supporting a fourth extension format, yet. Though very unlikely.

I just want to check my understanding of what the compatible version of the extension actually does. The new version appears to have some really interesting features, but if my understanding is correct, the compatible version posted in this thread, mainly focuses on privacy increase through cookie management. If you close your browser frequently, could you accomplish the same goal by setting your browser to never accept third-party cookies, or accept them only from visited sites, and clear them on palemoon exit. Or, if you're the kind of person who leaves their browser open all the time, could you accomplish the same goal with self-destructing cookies, which is currently listed as compatible. I appreciate LimboSlam's effort in posting an easy link to the compatible privacy badger version. Just thinking that in the absence of a fork of a more recent version, there might be easier ways to mimic its functionality.

[CharmCityCrab]

Github lists the email addresses of the two primary maintainers of the project as cjq@eff.org and noah@eff.org

That's on the main page of their Github page, so I'm assuming they don't mind unsolicited emails from the public. I didn't dig those email addresses up from anywhere they'd put them with the expectation of privacy or anything. Maybe if enough people email them requesting Pale Moon support, they'll add it. It'd also be nice to have this extension for Firefox for Android, which it is currently unavailable, so if you email them and mention the one, and also would be interested in the other, as might as well ask for both. But only if you want to see it, obviously.

[Falna]

The new version appears to have some really interesting features, but if my understanding is correct, the compatible version posted in this thread, mainly focuses on privacy increase through cookie management. If you close your browser frequently, could you accomplish the same goal by setting your browser to never accept third-party cookies, or accept them only from visited sites, and clear them on palemoon exit. Or, if you're the kind of person who leaves their browser open all the time, could you accomplish the same goal with self-destructing cookies, which is currently listed as compatible. I appreciate LimboSlam's effort in posting an easy link to the compatible privacy badger version. Just thinking that in the absence of a fork of a more recent version, there might be easier ways to mimic its functionality.

Yes Privacy Badger was aimed at rolling such functionality into one extension. I've not been able to get any version of it working with Pale Moon, but have most / all of its functions covered by other extensions.

[Weishaupt]

Or a kind soul could create a fork for Pale Moon. Now that would be awesome.

[CharmCityCrab]

Or a kind soul could create a fork for Pale Moon. Now that would be awesome.

PrivacyWeasel!

[CharmCityCrab]

Or a kind soul could create a fork for Pale Moon. Now that would be awesome.

PrivacyWeasel!

It occurred to me later than not everyone might be in on this joke. I think most of you already know, but just in case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_C ... #Iceweasel

I am actually very much for a forked version of PrivacyBadger that incorporates all the features of the official PrivacyBadger on Chrome and Firefox, but is compatible with Pale Moon and possibly other browsers.

It seems like this would be the right time to do it. It sounds like the code is still close enough that a talented coder could fork PB with new branding and make it Pale Moon compatible with relatively minimal initial effort. Then they'd just have to program any new features one at a time versus having to do the whole thing from scratch if they were to start when Privacy Badger is already rewritten for Firefox's upcoming new programming language for add-ons. Not that adding new features from scratch is easy, but it's easier than doing the entire add-on from scratch.

Actually, it occurs to me that this is the optimal time in general for add-ons to start supporting Pale Moon or for Pale Moon friendly forks of add-ons to be created, while the coding is still relatively similar. In a year or two, Firefox add-ons are going to be about as close as Chrome add-ons are to Pale Moon under the hood.