Firefox 149 bundles content-blocking engine adblock-rust

[Michaell]

The adblocker in Waterfox is only good for lists. No toolbar dropdown panel choices. Lists are the least important part for me.

[Night Wing]

For those wondering, looks like Waterfox took this road before Firefox.

If Waterfox has a native adblocker and it is coming, I'd rather use and trust Watefox's native adblocker than Firefox's native adblocker when "push comes to shove" if I am stuck with Manifest 3.

For me, I "need" to know only one thing. And that is if Waterfox's native adblocker will block all of those awful irrelevant ads in YouTube because I sure do not trust Firefox's native adblocker since Mozilla lies in the same bed with Google (money wise).

[Gemmaugr]

For those wondering, looks like Waterfox took this road before Firefox.

If Waterfox has a native adblocker and it is coming, I'd rather use and trust Watefox's native adblocker than Firefox's native adblocker when "push comes to shove" if I am stuck with Manifest 3.

For me, I "need" to know only one thing. And that is if Waterfox's native adblocker will block all of those awful irrelevant ads in YouTube because I sure do not trust Firefox's native adblocker since Mozilla lies in the same bed with Google (money wise).

It's the same adblocker sadly, and Waterfox gets their money from Startpage (of System1's ad platform company), which is a google search frontend.

[Night Wing]

It's the same adblocker sadly, and Waterfox gets their money from Startpage (of System1's ad platform company), which is a google search frontend.

Oh woe is me! But one must look on the bright side. Pale Moon is my daily driver. Not Waterfox. So I just might escape the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune (along with the fire lit torches and pitchforks) to escape the evil clutches of Manifest 3 by continuing to use my trusty Pale Moon.

[gabrgv]

Not sure about that.

This is from the Gitbug issue I linked:

I started development back in January, and by happy coincidence Mozilla did a better job of integrating the crate in Bug 2013888, so I could piggyback off of that work.

[Gemmaugr]

Not sure about that.

This is from the Gitbug issue I linked:

I started development back in January, and by happy coincidence Mozilla did a better job of integrating the crate in Bug 2013888, so I could piggyback off of that work.

Fair enough.

[UCyborg]

Off-topic:

I was kind of foreseeing this scenario when I amicably remarked to the devs here how it could be hard for a "normal" PC user (not you or me) to find and install an ad blocker for Pale Moon or Basilisk. Got my mouth shut real quick then. Obviously, I was misinterpreted, partially, I think, because I don't know how to express myself in english very well, and because people have a hard time reading nowadays.

I saw that. I don't see it as being expressed badly (quite the opposite), but there is a recurring pattern in this modern society that if your expression isn't sanitized, that is, overly politically correct and devoid of slight hint of being upset, anger, aggression etc. and filtered to be overall positive, you will be censored. My only thought regarding this fact: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me! But, alas, it is what it is...

And...

Also @Ucyborg, 'gorhill fucking sucks', really?
That field is for adding search keywords so that people don't run into the exact problem gabrgv faced, not petty rivalry.

For the record, regarding this particular remark, I'm not responsible for the listing of uBO on PM's add-ons site. I merely brought up the copy of modified uBO that I'm using at one point on this forum, never pursued the possibility of it being linked on the add-ons' site, but, it was someone else's idea, so it ended up there. Someone around these parts obviously is (or was?) resentful of gorhill. Not me, though.

[gabrgv]

Off-topic:
Thanks. And, yeah, I agree with you. People are more touchy nowadays, specially online.

[moonbat]

For the record, regarding this particular remark, I'm not responsible for the listing of uBO on PM's add-ons site. I merely brought up the copy of modified uBO that I'm using at one point on this forum, never pursued the possibility of it being linked on the add-ons' site, but, it was someone else's idea, so it ended up there. Someone around these parts obviously is (or was?) resentful of gorhill. Not me, though.

Apologies. Now after seeing this I've instantly realized who it likely was, and that person isn't around here on the forum anymore.

[UCyborg]

Off-topic:
Content blockers for UXP leave something to be desired, but unless someone with a lot of time, skills and determination on their hands forks uBO, things will probably stay as they are for a long time.

[Mæstro]

Content blockers for UXP leave something to be desired, but unless someone with a lot of time, skills and determination on their hands forks uBO, things will probably stay as they are for a long time.

I think content blockers in general are on topic for this thread. What do you still desire which they cannot yet achieve?

[UCyborg]

uBO is buggy, in some cases it lets scripts and other things through, doesn't understand certain filters and bunch of parameters that were added with new versions.

And for some reason the browser UI hangs if I try to login to my water company's site and have uBO and PassIFox enabled at the same time...

[frostknight]

Of fucking course it's a Rust based thing. The writing is in the wall, Mozilla, nobody wants Rust.

If people are smart, yeah.

That's my concern though... what if people are getting dumber...

If firefox implements v2, I hope firefox will get forked by a large group of devs so that things will be done right or even go back to original structure.

[Gemmaugr]

Of fucking course it's a Rust based thing. The writing is in the wall, Mozilla, nobody wants Rust.

If people are smart, yeah.

That's my concern though... what if people are getting dumber...

If firefox implements v2, I hope firefox will get forked by a large group of devs so that things will be done right or even go back to original structure.

Would that be v2 of Rust?

Either way, Mozilla more or less gave up control of Rust to google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(pro ... Foundation

"It was established on February 8, 2021, with five founding corporate members (Amazon Web Services (Silk chromium), Huawei (Huawei chromium), Google (OG chromium & chrome), Microsoft (Edge chromium), and Mozilla [chromium-lite¹])."

¹: webextensions, geolocation, webrtc, widewine, safe browsing, V8 shim layer, search deal, etc, and now rust adblock. All from google.

[UCyborg]

uBO is buggy, in some cases it lets scripts and other things through, doesn't understand certain filters and bunch of parameters that were added with new versions.

An example of site where uBO fails: https://a-z-animals.com/