Adblockers that aren't horrendously lame

[Honeyko]

Wishlist: uBlock Origin, Adblocker Ultimate, Sponsorblock, FB Purity.... All the good stuff growing boys crave.

....and moldy old fossil Adblock Latitude is the crumb on the list of Basilisk extensions, and it is almost wholly worthless at this point. YouTube and Facebook remain ad-encrusted (if they'll even run instead of balking at an "obsolete" browser, or black-screening because Latitude can't hide itself from 'Tube's detection algorithm).

What are some options here?

[andyprough]

Wishlist: uBlock Origin, Adblocker Ultimate, Sponsorblock, FB Purity...

uBlock - https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-f ... y/releases

[Honeyko]

I"ll give that uBlock a try, as it's slightly newer (although still dating from April).

[andyprough]

I"ll give that uBlock a try, as it's slightly newer (although still dating from April).

The date of uBlock will be fine, it will give you the latest versions of the ad filter lists up to any new changes from today.

[Moonchild]

I"ll give that uBlock a try, as it's slightly newer (although still dating from April).

What really matters is the date of your filter lists. The extension itself doesn't need constant updating.

[back2themoon]

FB Purity also offers a Greasemonkey script version. You should be able to use that with Greasemonkey for Pale Moon (v.3.31.4), which is old but works fine.

[somdcomputerguy]

I use the FBPurity Greasemonkey script with Pale Moon, it works fine for when I have to do some fb crap with this browser.

[Honeyko]

FB Purity also offers a Greasemonkey script version. You should be able to use that with Greasemonkey for Pale Moon (v.3.31.4), which is old but works fine.

Any luck finding the other two on the OP list?

[moonbat]

Any luck finding the other two on the OP list?

You need only one adblocker for your browser, else they will conflict. uBO being already available, you're covered. Sponsorblock isn't.

[back2themoon]

Any luck finding the other two on the OP list?

As mentioned, Adblocker Ultimate seems completely unnecessary when you have uBO. As for Sponsorblock, I have zero experience with it. Try looking in filterlists.com for something similar. Search for "sponsor" in the Description field, for example.

[Honeyko]

Any luck finding the other two on the OP list?

As mentioned, Adblocker Ultimate seems completely unnecessary when you have uBO.

You would think so, but I have frequently found that they each address missing coverage in the other.

As for Sponsorblock, I have zero experience with it. Try looking in filterlists.com for something similar.

Thanks.

[moonbat]

As for Sponsorblock, I have zero experience with it. Try looking in filterlists.com for something similar. Search for "sponsor" in the Description field, for example.

Sponsorblock isn't an ad filter, it is a crowd sourced extension to block sponsorship and 'like and subscribe' segments on Youtube. It needs a separate extension, or integration with a mobile app (Revanced and NewPipe both support it).

There is a Greasemonkey script for it though.

[back2themoon]

Yes, you are correct. But it seems SponsorBlock themselves consider userscripts inadequate for this purprose. But if the script they provide does the job adequately, that's perfectly fine.

I've seen a few cases where Extension/Userscript/filterlists versions are available. Sometimes they are interchangeable, others they compliment each other (Extension Vs. script+filter) and there are cases where the Extension is the only way, as probably being the most powerful "format" of these three.

But I guess it also depends a lot on the task at hand. If not too complicated, a filterlist might be enough.

[BenFenner]

I was looking for Pale Moon extensions that would provide the service of SponsorBlock (already described above)and DeArrow (crowd-sourced changes to YouTube video thumbnails to remove arrows, circles, text, and replace it with a representative frame from the video, and updates the titles to accurate, non-click-bait stuff). I'd love to use these extensions. But I didn't find anything like it, so it's just a dream right now.

[moonbat]

I was looking for Pale Moon extensions that would provide the service of SponsorBlock

Extensions depending on external webservers need constant maintenance, someone forking the Firefox version would also have to commit to maintain them to keep up with changes and that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

[Honeyko]

uBlock - https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-f ... y/releases

Well, it was a worth a try, but it's worthless in Basilisk -- at least as far as YouTube is concerned. (Control: the current web-extensions version of uBlock I'm running in Waterfox and Floorp successfully evades YouTube's detections.

The date of uBlock will be fine, it will give you the latest versions of the ad filter lists up to any new changes from today.

Basilisk 2024.8.16 tests with uBlock 1.16.6b1 and Adblock Lattitude 5.0.9 (from Basilisk extensions list):

-- If uBlock is enabled and Lattitude is disabled, YouTube displays the adblocker-violate black-screen.
-- If both are enabled, YouTube displays the adblocker-violate black-screen.
-- if uBlock is disabled and Lattitude is enabled, ads show until their time-duration expires as the user clicks the Skip button.
-- If both are disabled, ads show until their time-duration expires as the user clicks the Skip button.

Based on this, I conclude that, at least as far as YouTube is concerned, 1) Adblock Lattitude might as well not even exist, as it is wholly defeated; 2) either uBlock 1.16.6b1 is broadcasting its presence in some way that the newer web-extensions versions do not, or Basilisk has a security hole enabling sites to query what extensions are running.

Same tests with Pale Moon 33.3.0: Lattitude remains wholly useless, while uBlock 1.16.6b1 seems to function -- but Pale Moon isn't my daily-driver, and I've noticed that YouTube tends to vary when its blackscreen will appear (i.e., sometimes ads are blocked in Basilisk, but generally not for long, as it seems that YouTube keeps a running tally of how many ad-free videos it will "gift" a browser/HID before slapping the blackscreen again).

Similar text in Waterfox G6.0.18 with current uBlock and Adblocker Ultimate: YouTube is muzzled nicely. (But of course then my TabMixPlus multi-row tabs and Thin Tabs are AWOL.)

[andyprough]

Same tests with Pale Moon 33.3.0: Lattitude remains wholly useless, while uBlock 1.16.6b1 seems to function

That's interesting, I wonder what difference between Basilisk and Pale Moon would cause this behavior? Might be something the Basilisk Dev would want to explore.

[Honeyko]

Same tests with Pale Moon 33.3.0: Lattitude remains wholly useless, while uBlock 1.16.6b1 seems to function

That's interesting, I wonder what difference between Basilisk and Pale Moon would cause this behavior? Might be something the Basilisk Dev would want to explore.

Personally I don't think there's any difference, and that YouTube would eventually block Pale Moon too after I exceeded some count worth of ad-free videos. (I notice that my Basilisk will be permitted to view some YouTubes if I don't visit the site for a week or so after being blackscreened; the blackscreen will be restored the next day if I watch a bunch more.)

Frankly, worthless XUL adblockers are the #1 impediment to my using Basilisk as much as I'd like (it's the only browser I know of that correctly spaces ThinTabs and TabMixPlus' multi-row tabs; e.g. they don't play nice together in Pale Moon, etc). I've had to move all YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit activity to "modern" browsers running web-extensions.

[andyprough]

Frankly, worthless XUL adblockers are the #1 impediment to my using Basilisk as much as I'd like

Good luck with that. Google is killing ad blocking on chromium with Manifest V3, and Mozilla will try to keep V2 alive but will probably fail and throw in the towel in fairly short order. Your days of getting any decent ad blocking through web extensions are officially numbered.

[Honeyko]

Frankly, worthless XUL adblockers are the #1 impediment to my using Basilisk as much as I'd like

Good luck with that. Google is killing ad blocking on chromium with Manifest V3, and Mozilla will try to keep V2 alive but will probably fail and throw in the towel in fairly short order.

Mozilla blows dead dogs.

Your days of getting any decent ad blocking through web extensions are officially numbered.

I haven't had any problems so far using Chromium-Legacy, Floorp, or Waterfox. Enabling developer-mode in a chrome browser to load AdNauseum is another option Google would rather everyone never learned about.