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tenseys
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by tenseys » 2018-08-30, 04:10
Off-topic:Pale Moon Rising wrote:tenseys wrote:So is that what this test shows.. that PM has a faster browsing speed or is a faster browser than the others?
Wouldn't you say so? The higher score is better and the tests are called "speed tests" and since Pale Moon has the highest scorer among the browsers I ran tests on (as illustrated in my posted results) -- I'm assuming this means exactly that!

In the real world though... where people will want to do their high speed banking that you mentioned? I'm not so sure that's what it means. I think it was the fastest browser on the speed battle algorithm test, but it is not necessarily the fastest browser which depends on many things that test may not have tested for.
And I still don't see that changing market share of PM for the better. FF has been above Chrome for periods in speed battle and lost market share. Hell, FF is nearly twice as fast as Chrome right now on speed battle on my machine and is losing share as we speak
Added: I just tested Chrome now and I got a 681.76, half of what PM is getting.
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Night Wing
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by Night Wing » 2018-08-30, 04:30
Off-topic:
@ tenseys
I've got 32 bit windows Firefox 61.0.2 on four of my computers running Windows 7 and FF is definitely not as fast as either Pale Moon or SeaMonkey. There is a noticable difference. The same is also true for 64 bit linux Firefox 61.0.1 on my computers since I dual boot 64 bit linux Mint 19 and 64 bit Windows 7.
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by tenseys » 2018-08-30, 04:34
Off-topic:I've got 32 bit windows Firefox 61.0.2 on four of my computers running Windows 7 and FF is definitely not as fast as either Pale Moon or SeaMonkey. There is a noticable difference. The same is also true for 64 bit linux Firefox 61.0.1 on my computers since I dual boot 64 bit linux Mint 19 and 64 bit Windows 7
I have always found PM to be faster than FF going back years. Especially at startup warm/cold. That is the first thing I noticed about PM. This was true when PM scored much less than it does now on speed battle, way behind FF. And I find Chrome to be faster than FF (half second). Yet chrome scores poorly on speed test - half the score on my laptop - compared to FF yet is faster than it, at start up, loading sites etc. at least in my experience.
IE 11 has a terrible score and is extremely fast and capable in certain instances.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm glad PM has a nice Speed Battle score. I think it's pretty cool. I was actually going to post about this in the thread earlier but decided not to. I think I'm going to exit this thread now since I don't want to just keep arguing back and forth. Peace out!
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by Night Wing » 2018-08-30, 05:03
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@ tenseys
When it comes to these so called speed tests of browsers, I think companies "fudge" on their numbers by setting up their browsers so they get the optimum results they're looking for. The real test is when the browser is installed on users computers and then the "truth" is shown by actual useage.
On my four computers with their linux and windows hard drives, Firefox (Quantum) is a "distant" third behind Pale Moon and SeaMonkey speed wise.
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by tenseys » 2018-08-30, 06:37
Off-topic:Night Wing wrote:@ tenseys
The real test is when the browser is installed on users computers and then the "truth" is shown by actual useage.
Based on my experience with noting the scoring of that speed battle tool over the years and how fast a browser actually is in real world, I don't put much stock in it.
(funny, testing FF61 versus PM28 now, they are almost the same when before there was 200-300 point difference)
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