Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

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Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by DAIstian » 2016-11-24, 13:11

Hello,

ever since I updated to v27, a small subset of sites (namely Google) have been displaying that my browser is out of date or showing outdated design. This is annoying especially in Google's case.

Is it simply a setting that changed with the update that I need to turn off, or the update itself?
Thanks in advance for reply.

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Re: Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by Moonchild » 2016-11-24, 13:52

Since you're using a localized version of Google, our google.com override that tells google we are a modern browser (by faking Firefox) won't work.

Google uses useragent sniffing to determine "browser features" and if the browser comes up as "unknown" then they give you the "compatible" interface.

Two possible solutions:
  1. Use about:config to add a new override by copying the string from general.useragent.override.google.com into general.useragent.override.google.cz
    Right-click the former and select "copy value" then right click the screen, select new -> string, name it the latter name and paste the value you copied as value).
  2. Go into Options -> Advanced -> tab "General" and set "User agent mode" to "Firefox Compatibility" -- this will change it for all sites, which may have negative side effects on other sites.
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Re: Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by Edkiefer » 2016-11-24, 15:01

Moonchild wrote:Since you're using a localized version of Google, our google.com override that tells google we are a modern browser (by faking Firefox) won't work.

Google uses useragent sniffing to determine "browser features" and if the browser comes up as "unknown" then they give you the "compatible" interface.

Two possible solutions:
  1. Use about:config to add a new override by copying the string from general.useragent.override.google.com into general.useragent.override.google.cz
    Right-click the former and select "copy value" then right click the screen, select new -> string, name it the latter name and paste the value you copied as value).
  2. Go into Options -> Advanced -> tab "General" and set "User agent mode" to "Firefox Compatibility" -- this will change it for all sites, which may have negative side effects on other sites.
Hi Moonchild

I have simular question on user agent stuff. with 26.xx I had to add override lines like you mention here. my question, should we still need them with 27?
Edit: Ok, I see only one override by me now (bold text) and I see many are updated to "general.useragent.override.gstatic.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.0 Firefox/31.9 PaleMoon/27.0.0"
So I guess I can change the one I had to newer one , as it was 38v "general.useragent.override.mynycb.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 (Palemoon)"

Also I looked at the global compatibility setting and mine is set to Gecko Compatibility , is that the default or was this something I set (can't remember setting it).
Last could you give version or whats the difference in the 3 settings, firefox , Gecko and Native ?

All seem to be owrking after new session.

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Re: Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by Nigaikaze » 2016-11-24, 15:19

Edkiefer wrote:Last could you give version or whats the difference in the 3 settings, firefox , Gecko and Native ?
Native includes just the Goanna and PaleMoon slices in the useragent. No Gecko or Firefox.

Gecko compatibility adds the Gecko slice but not the Firefox slice.

Firefox compatibility adds both the Gecko and Firefox slices.
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Re: Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by Edkiefer » 2016-11-24, 16:04

Nigaikaze wrote:
Edkiefer wrote:Last could you give version or whats the difference in the 3 settings, firefox , Gecko and Native ?
Native includes just the Goanna and PaleMoon slices in the useragent. No Gecko or Firefox.

Gecko compatibility adds the Gecko slice but not the Firefox slice.

Firefox compatibility adds both the Gecko and Firefox slices.
Ok, thanks so firefox compatibility ,I wouldn't lose any support compared to Gecko setting as it adds both gecko and firefox values.

If I run into any issue's i'll try that or just update the one override I made if its that site.
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Re: Sites showing as outdated/using an outdated design on Pale Moon v27

Post by gkiwi » 2016-11-25, 01:58

Moonchild wrote:Since you're using a localized version of Google, our google.com override that tells google we are a modern browser (by faking Firefox) won't work.

Google uses useragent sniffing to determine "browser features" and if the browser comes up as "unknown" then they give you the "compatible" interface.

Two possible solutions:
  1. Use about:config to add a new override by copying the string from general.useragent.override.google.com into general.useragent.override.google.cz
    Right-click the former and select "copy value" then right click the screen, select new -> string, name it the latter name and paste the value you copied as value).
  2. Go into Options -> Advanced -> tab "General" and set "User agent mode" to "Firefox Compatibility" -- this will change it for all sites, which may have negative side effects on other sites.
Thanks MCH
Just had to do it myself and your solution worked instantly. :thumbup:

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