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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-05-01, 12:29

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-05-01, 11:46
I need some feedback.

Do you want the old Dactyloidae theme back by default, or have it as a separate add-on?
I'm running a version that reports itself as 13.2 on GNU/Linux, but I'm not sure if that version number is exactly correct, as I thought this was a beta. The file properties say that this version is from April 16th. I don't get much of a theme, but instead a box that says "Default is incompatible with Dactyloidae 52.9.0".

Can you show us a screenshot of what Default theme is supposed to look like? It might be really really good and worth keeping.

Here's mine:
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-01, 13:04

andyprough wrote:
2026-05-01, 12:29
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-05-01, 11:46
I need some feedback.

Do you want the old Dactyloidae theme back by default, or have it as a separate add-on?
I'm running a version that reports itself as 13.2 on GNU/Linux, but I'm not sure if that version number is exactly correct, as I thought this was a beta. The file properties say that this version is from April 16th. I don't get much of a theme, but instead a box that says "Default is incompatible with Dactyloidae 52.9.0".

Can you show us a screenshot of what Default theme is supposed to look like? It might be really really good and worth keeping.

Here's mine:
2026-05-01_07-23.jpg
oh yeah, i kept the internal version as 52.9 for the sakes of compatability with Basilisk/Firefox, the actual version is 13.2.

(older screenshot but still looks similar)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-02, 10:06

I tried to check out dactyloidae.xyz, and all I get is;

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 Error 1033
Cloudflare Tunnel error
What happened?

You've requested a page on a website (dactyloidae.xyz) that is on the Cloudflare network. The host (dactyloidae.xyz) is configured as a Cloudflare Tunnel, and Cloudflare is currently unable to resolve it.
What can I do?

If you are a visitor of this website:
Please try again in a few minutes.

If you are the owner of this website:
Ensure that cloudflared is running and can reach the network. You may wish to enable load balancing for your tunnel.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-02, 10:09

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-02, 10:06
I tried to check out dactyloidae.xyz, and all I get is;

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 Error 1033
Cloudflare Tunnel error
What happened?

You've requested a page on a website (dactyloidae.xyz) that is on the Cloudflare network. The host (dactyloidae.xyz) is configured as a Cloudflare Tunnel, and Cloudflare is currently unable to resolve it.
What can I do?

If you are a visitor of this website:
Please try again in a few minutes.

If you are the owner of this website:
Ensure that cloudflared is running and can reach the network. You may wish to enable load balancing for your tunnel.
Oh yeah my server is off
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by webbrowserdirectory » 2026-05-03, 09:31

Hi @ownedbywuigi,

Just letting you know that I've added Dactyloidae to the big list of web browsers, you can see the page here:

https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/bro ... ctyloidae/

I've added what info I've been able to find, if there's anything else you think I should add or correct, please let me know!

Good luck with your College exams :)

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by webbrowserdirectory » 2026-05-03, 11:44

Also, I've seen you also have the "Kirin" browser... is that the new name of Dactyloidae? Are they the same thing or a different browser?

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-03, 12:39

webbrowserdirectory wrote:
2026-05-03, 09:31
Hi @ownedbywuigi,

Just letting you know that I've added Dactyloidae to the big list of web browsers, you can see the page here:

https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/bro ... ctyloidae/

I've added what info I've been able to find, if there's anything else you think I should add or correct, please let me know!

Good luck with your College exams :)

Brett
Oh shit nice

My website is currently down due to my web server being down, will hopefully fix that soon. It’s still in active progress, just in the background.

Just letting you know, I don’t just support Windows, Dactyloidae is the only browser from the roytam1 codebase that supports non-Windows (notably macOS and Linux (both x64 and LoongArch64))
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-03, 15:46

webbrowserdirectory wrote:
2026-05-03, 11:44
Also, I've seen you also have the "Kirin" browser... is that the new name of Dactyloidae? Are they the same thing or a different browser?
I’ve decided that Kirin is the Win7+ fork, and Dactyloidae is my Win2000+ fork (note that Win2000 compatibility is still WIP)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-05-03, 16:03

ownedbywuigi wrote:
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I’ve decided that Kirin is the Win7+ fork, and Dactyloidae is my Win2000+ fork (note that Win2000 compatibility is still WIP)
Yes, but then you'll need a name for your Win98 fork, one for your Win95 fork, and one for your Win3.1 fork. And probably one for your Windows Millennium fork.

Just kidding - or am I??? :shock:

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by webbrowserdirectory » 2026-05-04, 10:02

Ok cool, thanks for that.

I've also added a page for Kirin to help promote and provide info about it:

https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/browsers/kirin/

Please let me know if I've got all the info correct or if anything needs fixing. Good luck with the projects!

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-04, 10:13

Alright, thanks.

More full-time development will start around mid-June since that is when my final exam ends.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-04, 14:46

So, do both Dactyloidae and Kirin actually use Gecko then, and not Goanna?
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-04, 15:12

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-04, 14:46
So, do both Dactyloidae and Kirin actually use Gecko then, and not Goanna?
What? No, they both use Goanna.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Falna » 2026-05-04, 18:25

webbrowserdirectory wrote:
2026-05-04, 10:02
https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/browsers/kirin/

Please let me know if I've got all the info correct or if anything needs fixing. Good luck with the projects!
Looks like the rendering engine of Dactyloidae & Kirin need an update to Goanna:
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-05-04, 15:12
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-04, 14:46
So, do both Dactyloidae and Kirin actually use Gecko then, and not Goanna?
What? No, they both use Goanna.

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-04, 18:40

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-05-04, 15:12
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-04, 14:46
So, do both Dactyloidae and Kirin actually use Gecko then, and not Goanna?
What? No, they both use Goanna.
Phew. Because both https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/bro ... ctyloidae/ & https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/browsers/kirin/ list Gecko as rendering engine, so I just wanted to make sure. ;)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by webbrowserdirectory » 2026-05-04, 23:48

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-04, 18:40
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-05-04, 15:12
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-04, 14:46
So, do both Dactyloidae and Kirin actually use Gecko then, and not Goanna?
What? No, they both use Goanna.
Phew. Because both https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/bro ... ctyloidae/ & https://www.webbrowserdirectory.com/browsers/kirin/ list Gecko as rendering engine, so I just wanted to make sure. ;)
Ahh geeze! Sorry about that! I just had Gecko on the brain! I've fixed that now haha.

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-05, 05:38

webbrowserdirectory wrote:
2026-05-04, 23:48
Ahh geeze! Sorry about that! I just had Gecko on the brain! I've fixed that now haha.
All good now! Easy mistake to make when it's usually only chromium or gecko.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by walmar » 2026-05-05, 19:53

As previously announced, I continued my testing of Dactyloidae in a Sandboxie Plus box under Windows 7. This time using the latest pre-release 2 of version 13.2.

1. Extensions

WebExtensions

The issues with WebExtensions mentioned in my first post still persist. If needed, I could potentially replace some of them with URL Rewriter, Greasemonkey for UXP browsers or uBlock Origin for Firefox legacy.

Furthermore, I think Polly+ is a better choice than Palefill because it is fully compatible with the e10s mode, can be controlled more directly, and is more comprehensive.

One of the few WebExtensions that actually works for me is resumeLater for FF48+.

Another one that won't work and messages errors is Markdown Viewer Webext for FF42+.
WebExtension API storage.sync.get not found (it may be unimplemented by Dactyloidae). ExtensionUtils.jsm:994
findPathInObject(...) is not a function ExtensionParent.jsm:474
The Cookie AutoDelete for FF63+, which I greatly appreciate because it supports containers, displays its user interface, but throws several errors in the console.

The Open external links in a container for FF 48+ refuses to install and the browser reports file corruption. I need the extension to open bookmarked login pages in separate containers.

Overlay & Bootstraped

Overlay and bootstrapped extensions seem to work fine. I have suggesfully testet Easy Copy 2.7.0 and Flagfox 5.2.11.

2. Missing Features

So far, I have noticed the absence of the following features of FF56.

Electrolysis (e10s) Web Content Processes It is important to note that all WebExtensions are compatible with e10s, while some other extensions may need to be specifically developed for compatibility with e10s. For example, since 2019 I have been using my privately modified EasyCopy overlay extension together with modified userChrome JavaScripts under Waterfox 56 to work with e10s.

Container Tabs coloring
  • After activating the feature in about:config, it will be displayed under about:preferences#privacy and can be accessed by long-pressing the "New Tab" button. However, tabs opened within a container are not highlighted.
    • privacy.userContext.enabled;true
    • privacy.userContext.ui.enabled;true
    • privacy.usercontext.about_newtab_segregation.enabled;true
Useful but less important

in new Tab
  • about:config
    • browser.newtab.search.enabled
    • browser.newtabpage.enhanced; browser.newtabpage.pinned (FF 39+ Tiles)
Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

3. Appearance

User Interface Design

If I want to change the user interface to Australis, is there a recommended procedure? Would it be via the chrome profile folder? At least that's the given way for Google Firefox Xtreme for Remote Windows Xtreme and its glorified derivatives.

Theme

I would also like to continue using the Firefox C theme. It cannot be installed via the AMO website.

4. Browser test scores
Intermediate result

From my perspective as an advanced Firefox/Waterfox 56 user, switching to Dactyloidae in its current state would feel like a huge step backwards. I really hope that this can be changed.

I have been waiting for many years for a browser comparable to FF56 that is still being maintained. Due to a lack of support for class fields and compatibility with Cloudflare Turnstile, etc., the use of WF56 is becoming increasingly difficult. Unfortunately, attempts to continue the development of FF56 after 2022 appear to have failed, as all interested parties stated that they were unable to compile the source code with their non-Clang compiler front end. (But at least r3dfox seems to be compiled with Clang anyway.)

Please note that I still haven't tested everything, as my custom profile data is very extensive and Dactyloidae processes profile data differently than Firefox browsers that use the Gecko engine. I may do that after I have seen further progress in the development.

Whatever the case, good luck with your college exams.

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-06, 00:21

I don't want to say what I'm working on in public just yet, but there is some shit cooking up in the background. 13.2 will still be a big update, but what's after that is the big stuff.

Just stay tuned.

I will be restoring Australis in this new project, though the old Dactyloidae theme will be an add-on.

Will be researching how themes work in the FX add-on store, as they act like extensions for some reason.

There's a bunch of stuff you mentioned I will add, but one thing I cannot add is a Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin.
A Widevine license sets me back around £3000, and I am a 17y/o student. I literally cannot afford that, and neither can most organizations (even Pale Moon!)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by BenFenner » 2026-05-06, 01:29

Someone needs to explain to me why we think Dactyloidae was launched in 2018 and is 8 years old...
It's been developed for about 8 years
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