"Use Small Icons" is about borders?
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back2themoon
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"Use Small Icons" is about borders?
Hello,
Hardly a major issue of course, but here it goes.
Customize Toolbar/Use Small Icons. Disabling this, one would assume to use "large" icons. Instead, there's a barely noticeable icon size increase. What is definitively noticeable, is the introduction of borders (or whatever they're called) around icons, which provide the illusion of "larger" i.e. taking more space.
This isn't about border aesthetics, but it does seem like an inconsistency. Wouldn't it be preferable to ditch the borders and fully enlarge the icons instead? Or am I missing something here?
Hardly a major issue of course, but here it goes.
Customize Toolbar/Use Small Icons. Disabling this, one would assume to use "large" icons. Instead, there's a barely noticeable icon size increase. What is definitively noticeable, is the introduction of borders (or whatever they're called) around icons, which provide the illusion of "larger" i.e. taking more space.
This isn't about border aesthetics, but it does seem like an inconsistency. Wouldn't it be preferable to ditch the borders and fully enlarge the icons instead? Or am I missing something here?
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vannilla
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
They change size on Linux GTK3, it's probably something about themes and maybe whether the title bar is drawn by the browser or left to the OS.
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
But you do get the borders, right? The icons do seem to (very) slightly increase on Windows too, but the "objection" here is really about the added borders.
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
How exactly the "large" and "small" icons are represented in the UI depends on the theme. The default theme uses visible button faces and borders for "large" but other themes may do it differently and actually enlarge the icons (or reduce for "small").
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
Please consider this as a "default theme behaviour change" request then. This wasn't really about who/what is making the change, but about the change itself.
I assume the default Theme is not a separate entity from the browser, right? Yes, I could try picking another theme but that would change a lot more than those borders.
In any case, as mentioned: minor issue/annoyance. Not making a fuss about this.
I assume the default Theme is not a separate entity from the browser, right? Yes, I could try picking another theme but that would change a lot more than those borders.
In any case, as mentioned: minor issue/annoyance. Not making a fuss about this.
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
I'm not sure what you're asking for. I'm not going to remove the button styling and making the icons larger on a flat borderless button interface. If that's what you want you can always tweak the styling with UserChrome.css
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
For reference, this is what I have.
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back2themoon
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
You could only consider removing the borders, that's all. No need to touch the current icon-resizing logic and further increase them.
I actually managed to remove the borders via CSS, but this breaks the slight icon size increase that does take place. So, the borders go away but the icons stay exactly the same (= small). Perhaps better CSS could fix it, but that's as far as I could go.
That doesn't look like the default theme though, right?
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Re: "Use Small Icons" is about borders?
Linux GTK 3, official tarball.