Android System SafetyCore: uninstall this right now.

[moonbat]

Off-topic:
There's several ways to spoof locked bootloaders and pass Safetynet and other checks. I've always rooted my phone and can use it for payments easily.

[UCyborg]

But it's a cat and mouse game. There are very long threads on XDA Forums about related troubles.

[moonbat]

But it's a cat and mouse game.

Unfortunately, yes. But well worth being able to root and disable all advertising/tracking components using App Manager or similar. And your credit/debit card works very well for tap and pay on its own.

[Moonchild]

On that topic I'm always very weary about "pay with phone" setups. Storing card details on a phone with NFC means that if it's ever broken into, that data can be cloned and used without any real safeguards. If synced with "the cloud" it can even be compromised without physical access to the device. Do I feel comfortable with that? No, I don't. So thus far the only wallet I have in use is the one in my pocket with coins, bills and pieces of plastic

[Night Wing]

On that topic I'm always very weary about "pay with phone" setups. So thus far the only wallet I have in use is the one in my pocket with coins, bills and pieces of plastic

Off-topic:
I'm like you. I carry a wallet in my pants pocket when I go out for the day shopping, etc, etc. No coins though. The wallet carries one credit card and paper money. I also carry with me, an archaic feature by today's standards, "a check book" for payment too.

I have no online accounts. But I do make phone payments. For the credit card, the phone payment is made with a "landline phone" from my personal residence (home). And the phone payment is always a "one time electronic transaction" between me and my banks (since I do banking at three different banks).

A security question is always asked by the bank to me before the transaction can proceed to conclusion. I have been doing it like this since I was 25 years old and has been going on this way for the last 50 years.

[BenFenner]

it was a pain to find a phone that doesn't use android

Why? Any feature phone will do.

Ehhh, I'm always in the market for a cell phone that does voice calls and that's it (no SMS, no camera, no Internet, etc.)

There was only one phone on the market with this feature set. It runs a highly modified version of... Android.

Even the otherwise highly desirable rotary cell phone had SMS capability at one point?

The cell phone market is completely devoid of devices that fit my wants/needs and has been that way for ~20 years.

For anyone else looking for feature phones or similar, this resource (and the associated YouTube channel) are the go-to these days:
https://www.dumbphones.org

[BenFenner]

They're still clunky...is it really too much to ask for a compact phone?

My favorite phone was the absolutely minuscule Nokia Shade 2705. If it were a candy bar form factor instead of clam shell, it would have been nearly perfect. I've only ever had 3 cell phones in my life, and this was my second. I would still be running it today if they didn't phase out 2G in my area. This thing could fit in the 5th pocket of jeans. There is no technical reason we can't have even smaller cell phones, still with physical buttons.

I keep track of the possibilities from time to time here (forum membership required): https://www.sr20-forum.com/offtopic/!32 ... -rule.html

[UCyborg]

There is no technical reason we can't have even smaller cell phones, still with physical buttons.

True, but have to keep young people glued to social media, controlled by their algorithms.

[UCyborg]

I found a fork of Magisk called Magisk Alpha, this one seems better at concealing its traces from root detecting apps. I was struggling with stock Magisk and additional modules that altered / re-implemented Zygisk. Fork's Zygisk works better on its own at first glance.

Installation went smoothly, though I had to flash it two times, first patching original init boot image with "select and patch file" method, flashing it with fastboot, then patching flashed image again with direct method (app notified it should be re-flashed).

My modules and settings survived, didn't have to start over. I went from original 30.4 to fork 30.4, which configurations are supposed to be compatible.

Rooted users continue to be oppressed by draconian policies of app developers in the name of "security" and control.