Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
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liqih
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Today no way to enter www.kvraudio.com forum due to Cloudflare looping, Using PM 33.8.2 64-it on Windows 10
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Not the fastest check in the world but it passed for me without issue.liqih wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:04Today no way to enter www.kvraudio.com forum due to Cloudflare looping, Using PM 33.8.2 64-it on Windows 10
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Gemmaugr
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Site loaded for me in 0.2 seconds. Didn't even get a cloudflare prompt.liqih wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:04Today no way to enter www.kvraudio.com forum due to Cloudflare looping, Using PM 33.8.2 64-it on Windows 10
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
It only pops up when you go to the forum and attempt to log in.Gemmaugr wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:37Site loaded for me in 0.2 seconds. Didn't even get a cloudflare prompt.liqih wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:04Today no way to enter www.kvraudio.com forum due to Cloudflare looping, Using PM 33.8.2 64-it on Windows 10
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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Gemmaugr
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Ah. Thanks. I missed the single word forum (and the missing "Log In"). https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=login does indeed require Cloudflare for me. It went by pretty quickly though. 5 seconds tops.Moonchild wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 16:17It only pops up when you go to the forum and attempt to log in.Gemmaugr wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:37Site loaded for me in 0.2 seconds. Didn't even get a cloudflare prompt.liqih wrote: ↑2025-08-27, 15:04Today no way to enter www.kvraudio.com forum due to Cloudflare looping, Using PM 33.8.2 64-it on Windows 10
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frostknight
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
That's good enough in my opinion to be honest
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Say NO to Fascism and Corporatism as much as possible!
Also, Peace Be With us All!
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tellu-white
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
In my opinion, it takes far too long to open a web page. For this reason, I created the "Bypass Cloudflare with Saved Cookies" add-on. This allows me to instantly open a page that uses Cloudflare verification, even though I tend to delete cookies frequently.
Screenshots:
The time at which Cloudflare verification begins is 17:53:59
The time at which the Cloudflare check ends is 17:54:41
It took 42 seconds to successfully pass the Cloudflare check.
I use the "Bypass Cloudflare with Saved Cookies" add-on to save in "prefs.js" the cookies added by "kvraudio.com" after successfully passing the Cloudflare check.
To demonstrate the functionality of my add-on, I delete all cookies saved by Pale Moon, then use the add-on to reopen the page https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=login
Right-click on the page link + Click on the "Bypass Cloudflare with Saved Cookies" option at time 18:04:16
The page opens at 18:04:19
It took 3 seconds to open the page.
"That's good enough in my opinion to be honest".
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Bypass Cloudflare with Saved Cookies 4.6
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=32499
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back2themoon
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Many thanks for the new variant of your previous extension, tellu-white. Just discovered it by accident, here.tellu-white wrote: ↑2025-08-28, 16:05...I created the "Bypass Cloudflare with Saved Cookies" add-on.
Let's hope you change your mind and finally upload it/them to the Pale Moon Add-ons Site. And yes, I've read your previous replies on the subject.
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tellu-white
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
My pleasure, back2themoon. I'm glad you find it useful.back2themoon wrote: ↑2025-08-30, 13:23Many thanks for the new variant of your previous extension, tellu-white.
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coltson
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Whenever I enter a website that used this cloudfare stuff, palemoon shuts down after some time trying to load it.
Before it closes down, I was able to take a print of the error messages:
Then it shows the web link (that the print was not able to capture fully, due to the limited size of error console
then it says nearly the same (without the "error" word
My Palemoon version it the 33.2.0
Before it closes down, I was able to take a print of the error messages:
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Error: TypeError: x[H] is undefinedthen it says nearly the same (without the "error" word
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sidology
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Only the latest version is supported, yours is from June 2024.
https://www.palemoon.org/download.shtml
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Yes, please update. Cloudflare does not support older versions of Pale Moon and there are known issues with their captcha especially on versions before 33.8.0
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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liqih
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
I found a way out apparently, used the QuickPrefBar add-on and clicked "force reload" while the couldflare widget was spinning. That reloaded page and validated (?) couldflare check.
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coltson
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Unfortunately, I cannot update.sidology wrote: ↑2025-08-31, 20:39Only the latest version is supported, yours is from June 2024.
https://www.palemoon.org/download.shtml
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Colour me curious: what forces you to stay on the old version that you "cannot" update?
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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frostknight
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
32 bit linux? Or is it due to an addon issue?
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. Feelings are not facts
If you wish to be humbled, try to exalt yourself long term If you wish to be exalted, try to humble yourself long term
Favourite operating systems: Hyperbola Devuan OpenBSD
Say NO to Fascism and Corporatism as much as possible!
Also, Peace Be With us All!
If you wish to be humbled, try to exalt yourself long term If you wish to be exalted, try to humble yourself long term
Favourite operating systems: Hyperbola Devuan OpenBSD
Say NO to Fascism and Corporatism as much as possible!
Also, Peace Be With us All!
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coltson
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Ultra modern cpu requirement, ultra modern libstdc++ requirement and far too modern glib and pango requirements (likely, most of their own required libs) prevents me to use the binary version. There is also the mention of a high resolution screen, but I guess this is not a hard requirement.
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
We do have Linux SSE2 versions supplied by Nuck-TH. So the CPU requirement wouldn't be an issue if you use that. As for the dependencies, they are pretty conservative (we build the release binaries on an older Linux OS for a reason) so I'm not sure what ancient version of Linux you're using but you should really migrate to something less ancient if you can't meet those minimum requirements, so you can use a version of Pale Moon that addresses the CloudFlare captcha/turnstile issues.
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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Drugwash
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Unfortunately his versions require a higher GLibc version (2.28) than Ubuntu 18.04 accepts (2.27), for the libmozsqlite3 library alone (ironically, everything else was fine last time I checked). Therefore it would be unusable in any Linux versions based on that Ubuntu - or compatible Debian - versions, or earlier.
Such is the situation with me, running Linux Mint 19.2, where I have to compile the browser myself each time a new version comes out - which takes about three hours on an i5 M460 CPU with 8GB of RAM.
Some of us may have different but equally strong reasons to run older OS versions, and not all of us know enough to put together a compilation chain of tools.
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Moonchild
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues
Yeah, ok. Well, building from source is always an option.
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite