Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

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Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-09, 09:58

Hey everyone. An important announcement here for people using 32-bit Basilisk versions.

As the title says, I'll be phasing out 32-bit Basilisk versions for Windows.

Judging by statistics for updates, very few people are using Basilisk on 32-bit systems (just over 2%) and the fact is that Basilisk has the most features compiled for the modern web which pretty much require 64-bit memory addressing to work properly.
The current plan is to release one more update for 32-bit later this year that won't have the internal updater in it any more, and won't be checking for application updates (as there will be none in the future). If you are currently using 32-bit Basilisk on a 64-bit system (which seems to be the case for at least a number of people on Windows 10 x64) then I recommend you switch over to using the 64-bit version of the browser ahead of time to prevent interruptions in security updates.

Thanks for understanding.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Tharthan » 2020-10-09, 22:49

Can one switch over from 32-bit Basilisk to 64-bit while keeping the same profile, add-ons, etc.?

If so, how would one go about doing that?
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-09, 23:37

Simple: uninstall Basilisk 32-bit from Programs and Features; then install Basilisk 64-bit with the downloaded 64-bit installer.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-10-09, 23:55

Make sure you don't delete your data during uninstall.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Tharthan » 2020-10-10, 01:51

Thanks to you both.

Have you considered putting an indication on the download page to notify new users that the 32-bit version is being phased out?
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-10, 08:09

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2020-10-09, 23:55
Make sure you don't delete your data during uninstall.
That's not an option in the uninstaller for Basilisk.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-10, 08:10

Tharthan wrote:
2020-10-10, 01:51
Have you considered putting an indication on the download page
Yes I have, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by UCyborg » 2020-10-17, 09:08

That's a bummer. I still prefer 32-bit flavor as it doesn't gobble up RAM as fast.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-17, 09:10

Download more RAM. ;-)
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Суки читают » 2020-10-24, 22:16

I don't use Basilisk, but that's some sad news. Let's hope the Pale Moon browser won't follow anytime soon.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-10-24, 22:53

If you don't use Basilisk why do you even HAVE an opinion? Of course we know that 32bit Pale Moon on Windows has a sizable share of usage and also important for other niche conditions I won't cite here. However, ram deff is not a legit one. However, for Basilisk which already has low usage so 5-10 people who was Windows AND 32bit are impacted.. Oh well. Download more ram.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Суки читают » 2020-10-25, 02:14

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2020-10-24, 22:53
If you don't use Basilisk why do you even HAVE an opinion?
That seemed like a sign of things to come for Pale Moon. But I guess I will be able to continue using plugins in Pale Moon for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Tharthan » 2020-10-25, 03:29

Plugins?

What does the phasing out of 32-bit Basilisk have to do with plugins?
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2020-10-25, 03:43

Суки читают wrote:
2020-10-25, 02:14
That seemed like a sign of things to come for Pale Moon.
You know, I never understand this reasoning.
"We're going to make a change for X" "Does this spell worst-case-scenario doom for Y?" No. Never. If something else was going to be affected you'd think I'd mention it, right?
Just because I publish both doesn't mean they are merged like Siamese twins and that I don't have the capability of treating them as separate products.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by R3n_001 » 2020-10-25, 21:24

Moonchild wrote:
2020-10-17, 09:10
Download more RAM. ;-)
Downloading RAM has never worked for me.

I have 48GB of RAM because of how inefficient modern browsers are. Though my use case is different than most as e10s is basically a requirement for me in any browser for it to remain somewhat smooth.

For people rocking 8GB of RAM still, doubling the RAM to 16GB could very well cost the same as a quarter of the system they currently have, especially if it's a DDR3 laptop with one slot.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Суки читают » 2020-10-25, 23:55

Tharthan wrote:
2020-10-25, 03:29
What does the phasing out of 32-bit Basilisk have to do with plugins?
Currently, both Basilisk and Pale Moon support 32bit and 64bit plugins. Basilisk is becoming 64bit-only, meaning there's only Pale Moon left for 32bit plugins, which is fine since I don't use Basilisk. However, seeing how there was no 32bit Basilisk for Linux, I correctly predicted the upcoming fate for 32bit Pale Moon for Linux and now was worried about 32bit Pale Moon for Windows.

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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by moonbat » 2020-10-26, 04:12

R3n_001 wrote:
2020-10-25, 21:24
Though my use case is different than most
Does it involve having a 3-4 digit open tab count as a substitute for using bookmarks? :P
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by Tharthan » 2020-10-26, 04:59

Off-topic:
moonbat wrote:
2020-10-26, 04:12
a 3-4 digit open tab count
How anyone gets to that point is beyond my fathoming.

I always thought that I was someone who was excessively prone to a WikiWalk or being otherwise derailed when reading up on something or whatever. But the worst that I have ever gotten to is perhaps 20 - 25 tabs maximum.

That some people actually get to 50, 75, 100, or even 150 tabs, is just baffling.
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by moonbat » 2020-10-26, 05:10

Off-topic:
Tharthan wrote:
2020-10-26, 04:59
How anyone gets to that point is beyond my fathoming.
Maybe they will figure out h⃥o⃥w⃥ ⃥t⃥o⃥ ⃥c⃥u⃥r⃥e⃥ ⃥c⃥a⃥n⃥c⃥e⃥r⃥ the key to commercially viable nuclear fusion with the time saved as compared to typing a few letters from the URL/page title in the addressbar to fetch from both existing bookmarks and history :roll:
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Re: Phasing out 32-bit Basilisk

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-10-26, 05:18

Kids, maybe we are loosing sight of the fact that according to a short term AUS sampling that ditching Basilisk 32bit on Windows has MAYBE impacted a dozen users AT MOST.

And this discussion is being fueled by people who don't even use Basilisk and of those people who for some reason beyond fact or understanding thinks what happens to Basilisk will happen to Pale Moon. Basically a resurgence of an even stranger more illogical version of the "is Basilisk the new Pale Moon?" false perception.

To those I can only say: Stop it, stop it now. It isn't, it's not. You're wrong so stop.

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