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Up to what?
And what is PM CPU usage at these times?
Does PM actually crash?
up to as along there is memory [16gb on my system] as to if it crashes i don't know, i force terminate it trough task manager because it becomes unresponsive, cpu usage in task manager is 13% nothing unusual i think
Hang report for C:\Program Files\PaleMoon\Bin\Palemoon\Palemoon.exe
Generated by using WhatIsHang on 19/9/2019 7:37:55 PM
Web site: http://www.nirsoft.net
Remarks:
* The program probably hangs because there is an infinite loop, very long loop, or recursive calls.
Strings found in the stack:
stMessagP°i
general.smoothScroll.currentVelocityWeighting
Modules found in the stack:
C:\Program Files\PaleMoon\Bin\Palemoon\xul.dll , Mozilla Foundation , Pale,
C:\Program Files\PaleMoon\Bin\Palemoon\nss3.dll , Mozilla Foundation , Pale,
C:\windows\system32\MSCTF.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, MSCTF Server DLL
C:\Program Files\PaleMoon\Bin\Palemoon\mozglue.dll , Mozilla Foundation , Pale,
C:\Program Files\PaleMoon\Bin\Palemoon\ucrtbase.DLL , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, Microsoft® C Runtime Library
C:\windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll , Microsoft Corporation , Microsoft® Windows® Operating System, Windows NT BASE API Client DLL
Will i lose the settings if i use safe mode? meaning palemoon settings and extensions etc?
i could try with a clean PM portable see what happens
Will i lose the settings if i use safe mode? meaning palemoon settings and extensions etc?
When you restart in Safe Mode, you will be asked if you want to make any of the Safe Mode changes permanent. As long as you do not choose to do that, you will not lose anything.
Nichi nichi kore ko jitsu = Every day is a good day.
Will i lose the settings if i use safe mode? meaning palemoon settings and extensions etc?
When you restart in Safe Mode, you will be asked if you want to make any of the Safe Mode changes permanent. As long as you do not choose to do that, you will not lose anything.
You'll not lose any settings. Testing with portable version is also a good option.
Alright so i just did a test with a Clean PM portable and the safe mode, same story with a difference it needs a lot more time to reach high memory usage[stoped it at around 2.5gb did not see the reason to continue], on the clean PM portable only that page and start page where open, no extensions or anything
How long does it take before your Pale Moon becomes unresponsive? And are you doing any other navigation on that windowsreport.com site, or just letting that specfic URL stay open in a window/tab?
I'm not able to replicate this (yet). Yes, I see a clean new PM portable on that URL using a royal metric boatload more RAM than my own installation of PM, but even with both of them having that URL open I only used about 5.5 gig out of 16 gig of RAM. And these are PM 28.7.1 x64 versions on x64 Win7.
Nichi nichi kore ko jitsu = Every day is a good day.
How long does it take before your Pale Moon becomes unresponsive? And are you doing any other navigation on that windowsreport.com site, or just letting that specfic URL stay open in a window/tab?
I'm not able to replicate this (yet). Yes, I see a clean new PM portable on that URL using a royal metric boatload more RAM than my own installation of PM, but even with both of them having that URL open I only used about 5.5 gig out of 16 gig of RAM. And these are PM 28.7.1 x64 versions on x64 Win7.
Hmmm can tell for sure at around 3-4gb i notice slowdowns and occasional hangs for a couple of seconds [10-15s] experienced a complete hang at around 6gb maybe 7gb, was not paying attention at the time.
just so we are clear i don't need that site at all just reporting here cause thought it my be a bug with PM, probably is a badly optimized site would be my guess
Can't confirm. Tested with a vanilla install of Pale Moon 28.7.1 portable running in PB mode on Win7 x64.
Total memory consumption varies between 1.44 - 1.48 GB wherefrom over 1 GB is used by the OS.
With my regular install (active ad blocker/uBlock0) memory consumption is lower.
Can't reproduce - either on my standard install, or on vanilla portable.
In both cases, 28.7.1 on win7 pro 64 bit.
Sure, the site runs more scripts than it needs to - but that's a given - and memory usage drifts up a bit, but it's not significant. And closing the site drops the RAM back down.
On my primary install, I gave the site full focus for 68 minutes and walked away. Closed site, opened portable, gave it 40 minutes. Closed portable and memory usage is currently showing slightly less than it was 2 hours ago.
Can't reproduce - either on my standard install, or on vanilla portable.
In both cases, 28.7.1 on win7 pro 64 bit.
Sure, the site runs more scripts than it needs to - but that's a given - and memory usage drifts up a bit, but it's not significant. And closing the site drops the RAM back down.
On my primary install, I gave the site full focus for 68 minutes and walked away. Closed site, opened portable, gave it 40 minutes. Closed portable and memory usage is currently showing slightly less than it was 2 hours ago.
Yeap once the ofending site is closed memory going up stops and starts slowly to fall down, still doing some testing but i thing its these heavy script sites that are to blame
My definition of "leak" is when the browser don't give the RAM back when a problem site is closed.
Dunno if that's the techie definition, but it works for me.
If you are having probs with script heavy sites, then consider uMatrix (Github) or eMatrix (PM addons site) and disable 3rd party scripts by default.
Sites will break and you'll need to unbreak as and when, but it makes the interweb a whole lot more useable.
I'm able to reproduce this with a vanilla profile on Pale Moon portable. Not only does the RAM usage increase over time, the CPU usage is unusually high. On my regular profile it doesn't do it. I left the page open for over an hour and RAM usage was stable. I suspect my ad blocker is stopping whatever nonsense is causing the issue.
Edit: Scratch the suspicion. I disabled only my ad blocker (ublock Origin) and the issue immediately started up on refresh. It's just an issue of figuring out which filter list is stopping it.
I'm able to reproduce this with a vanilla profile on Pale Moon portable. Not only does the RAM usage increase over time, the CPU usage is unusually high. On my regular profile it doesn't do it. I left the page open for over an hour and RAM usage was stable. I suspect my ad blocker is stopping whatever nonsense is causing the issue.
Edit: Scratch the suspicion. I disabled only my ad blocker (ublock Origin) and the issue immediately started up on refresh. It's just an issue of figuring out which filter list is stopping it.
Thx for the info, will se what list causes the problem if any, i usually have them all enabled so it's a bit strange it wont stop it on my setup.
Maybe have some custom settings setup in ublock?
It looks like it might be a filter in "Hello, Goodbye!" that's making the difference. Specifically, it's blocking consensu.org. Try creating this filter and see what happens.
It looks like it might be a filter in "Hello, Goodbye!" that's making the difference. Specifically, it's blocking consensu.org. Try creating this filter and see what happens.
Well thank you Mr. Wizard bingo memory is stable at acceptable 250-300 mb, a few mb's going up and down but that is normal, no 4-5-6gb for a single page
I have this same problem on Win 7 32bit, when I first started to use PM about 12 months ago it seemed ok then after an update memory use went thru the roof, am currently on 28.7.1 and scared to update further in case it gets worse, how do you create the script you mentioned, here is a screen shot from task manager showing PM maxing out my memory
bingo memory is stable at acceptable 250-300 mb, a few mb's going up and down but that is normal, no 4-5-6gb for a single page 
