Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Doelli » 2019-02-12, 18:57

So please explain me the benefit of using basilisk instead of pale moon, after this changes.

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Al6bus » 2019-02-12, 19:30

Lessa wrote:but it only works halfway with the current version of the password manager.
Perhaps it is worth trying the old version of the password manager. Delete the current one and install this one, of course, do not update the program ;)
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2019-02-12, 19:32

Doelli wrote:So please explain me the benefit of using basilisk instead of pale moon, after this changes.
DRM.
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Doelli » 2019-02-12, 19:43

Thanks for your anwser
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-02-12, 20:23

Vaguely or Unmodified Firefox XUL Extensions especially those targeting Australis/CustomizableUI, DRM, and WebRTC...

Benefit also are extensions that may or may not be multi-application compatible that can target Basilisk and Pale Moon and other applications.

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Moonchild » 2019-02-12, 22:41

Doelli wrote:So please explain me the benefit of using basilisk instead of pale moon, after this changes.
The same as it has always been: personal preference for UI, workflow, feature set, and general target audience (DRM, WebRTC, Australis, Accessibility hardware, parental controls, general compatibility with unaltered Firefox extensions, etc. etc.).
This question is once more a typical "we don't understand anything but extremes" question -- just because one experimental feature is dropped, doesn't suddenly mean everything else becomes without value.
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by NoNameNeeded » 2019-02-13, 01:00

Sad to hear that the WebExtension support has been dropped.
Yes, I understand, mainly for technical reasons but still...
Maybe you should reconsider this decision because cutting Basilisk off of the rest of the (webExtension) world, so to speak, might not be the best idea after all.
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Moonchild » 2019-02-13, 03:23

NoNameNeeded wrote:Sad to hear that the WebExtension support has been dropped.
Yes, I understand, mainly for technical reasons but still...
Maybe you should reconsider this decision because cutting Basilisk off of the rest of the (webExtension) world, so to speak, might not be the best idea after all.
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This is not a decision that was made lightly, and won't be reconsidered. Please stop asking.
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by Lessa » 2019-02-13, 09:06

@Al6bus
Thank you so much for taking such good care of my problem. I'll try the old extension a while. It's just a bit more inconvenient than the current extension. But I won't change the main program. It works very well as it is, e. g. the sync with my cloud, and I don't want to change anything there. So thanks again!

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by mrtoo » 2019-02-15, 15:11

Well this really sucks. I updated Basilisks today and lost all my addons. I go to the PaleMoon site and the few addons I want are not compatible. The addons I want the most are the following:

uBlock Origin
HTTPS Everywhere
Cookie AutoDelete
Privacy Badger
Decentraleyes
CanvasBlocker
Open in VLC media player
User-Agent Switcher
Flagfox

So should I hang around Basilisk or start searching for a new browser?

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by kelendral » 2019-02-15, 17:02

mrtoo wrote:So should I hang around Basilisk or start searching for a new browser?
Your choice.
Here are versions to look for for some of your list (or links with help):
uBlock Origin - 1.13.8
CanvasBlocker - 0.3.8
User-Agent Switcher - User Agent Overrider 0.5.2
Flagfox - Thread Note the updates in Thread for GeoTool usage.

Hope those version numbers and information elements help.

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by mrnhmath » 2019-02-15, 17:19

mrtoo wrote: uBlock Origin
Latest "legacy" version can be found here. Ideally you should use native adblockers like ABPrime or Adblock Latitude instead.
mrtoo wrote: HTTPS Everywhere
See Moonchild's response.
mrtoo wrote: Cookie AutoDelete
Cookies Exterminator.
mrtoo wrote: Privacy Badger
Redundant with uBlock.
mrtoo wrote: Decentraleyes
Wait for next week's Basilisk Add-ons Site launch, so the accountable developers can update the extension to become Basilisk-compatible.
mrtoo wrote: CanvasBlocker
CanvasBlocker Legacy.

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2019-02-15, 18:22

mrtoo wrote:The addons I want the most are the following:

uBlock Origin.
The xul version (from GitHub) works great for me: firefox-legacy-1.16.4.8.
And if you would like it to automatically update, you can also install the uBlock Origin Updater

CanvasBlocker.
Try CanvasBlocker Legacy

Cookie AutoDelete.
Try one of these:
Cookies Exterminator
or Crush Those Cookies
or Self-Destructing Cookies for Pale Moon

Decentraleyes
If the most recent version on APMO doesn't work (since it's an xul/webextension hybrid), try the most recent xul version - I believe that would be v1.3.7.
If that doesn't work, open an issue with the extension's developer and request him to make it compatible.

HTTPS Everywhere
Not a function I use myself, but if you really want this, you might check out HTTPS Always, a fork by the Hyperbola project

Also, please check out these "legacy" add-on archives (take a read here):
Classic Add-ons Archive and the Legacy Collector website
For User-Agent Switcher try User Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1 (found in both archives).
For Open in VLC media player, you might try Open With v6.8.1 (also found in both archives).

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by mrtoo » 2019-02-15, 19:06

Thanks. The replies were very helpful in me keeping Basilisk

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-02-15, 19:26

Just remember, anything is possible with the power of xul.. Not so much for the modern day regressive technologies like WebExtensions...

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by zapper » 2019-02-16, 05:36

coffeebreak wrote:
mrtoo wrote:The addons I want the most are the following:

uBlock Origin.
The xul version (from GitHub) works great for me: firefox-legacy-1.16.4.8.
And if you would like it to automatically update, you can also install the uBlock Origin Updater

CanvasBlocker.
Try CanvasBlocker Legacy

Cookie AutoDelete.
Try one of these:
Cookies Exterminator
or Crush Those Cookies
or Self-Destructing Cookies for Pale Moon

Decentraleyes
If the most recent version on APMO doesn't work (since it's an xul/webextension hybrid), try the most recent xul version - I believe that would be v1.3.7.
If that doesn't work, open an issue with the extension's developer and request him to make it compatible.

HTTPS Everywhere
Not a function I use myself, but if you really want this, you might check out HTTPS Always, a fork by the Hyperbola project

Also, please check out these "legacy" add-on archives (take a read here):
Classic Add-ons Archive and the Legacy Collector website
For User-Agent Switcher try User Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1 (found in both archives).
For Open in VLC media player, you might try Open With v6.8.1 (also found in both archives).

100% Agree with HTTPSAlways* if you think you need it. Although, Decentraleyes 1.4.2 is out already and it works for me anyways. Same with that Ublock Origin Legacy git that you mentioned.

Although, I think Random Agent Spoofer is better than user-agent-switcher... https://github.com/gitbugged/random-age ... r/releases

This one was updated last november btw...
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by zapper » 2019-02-16, 05:40

Moonchild wrote:
NoNameNeeded wrote:Sad to hear that the WebExtension support has been dropped.
Yes, I understand, mainly for technical reasons but still...
Maybe you should reconsider this decision because cutting Basilisk off of the rest of the (webExtension) world, so to speak, might not be the best idea after all.
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This is not a decision that was made lightly, and won't be reconsidered. Please stop asking.
This may surprise you or not perhaps... That I am saying this I mean... But I think you are making the right decision.

I used to think webextensions was a good idea to have support for. Now I realize that was a fool hearty if not really dumb idea. I still disagree with you on certain addons being excluded from your addons repo, but XUL is golden. 100%

Let us just say that those Hyperbola devs convinced me otherwise... And everything I need is already available including that script blocker I love so much. :)

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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-02-16, 09:40

What is being excluded?

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2019-02-16, 12:16

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:What is being excluded?
I think he's talking about not providing product support for NoScript users.
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Re: Basilisk's experimental WebExtension support will be dropped.

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-02-16, 13:06

NoScript is a special case, discussed at length.

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