Captchas hell
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Re: Captchas hell
have just added a CAPTCHA bypass to Basilisk forum.have been chasing around for some way to knock off these problems but no luck with an extension for palemoon. in google chrome there was an exten:https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... ihknkjbknd which allows change on click & the captcha takes only 1 or 2 clicks. this exten avail for FF but not PM. someone may like to explain or check if they find something similar(without cost!) check out basilisk forum & browser to test & advise the forum,thanks
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So it's only a matter of time.fillerup wrote:yep it seems to have broken recently. i'll do some more digging for an alternative laterPhantom wrote:And it doesn't work.
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I still don't have this captcha issue like everyone else. I mean, I get captchas for certain legit things like creating accounts and such, but after about 4 iterations of the captcha it submits.
If it's not UA related then it's IP related. I can tell you right now a VPN will make it worse.
If it's not UA related then it's IP related. I can tell you right now a VPN will make it worse.
Re: Captchas hell
The captcha situation in Palemoon is degenerating . In the past just clicking "i am nor a robot" was enough ~4/5 times. Currently i am guaranteed to get a captha, and often a 10 pages long one with grainy pictures that ends in "try again"... It is worse with Palemoon on a direct connection with real IP, than on Firefox or Chrome behind a fully anon proxy.
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I can only suggest you complain to Google about this.Harkonnen wrote:The captcha situation in Palemoon is degenerating . In the past just clicking "i am nor a robot" was enough ~4/5 times. Currently i am guaranteed to get a captha, and often a 10 pages long one with grainy pictures that ends in "try again"... It is worse with Palemoon on a direct connection with real IP, than on Firefox or Chrome behind a fully anon proxy.
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Re: Captchas hell
Perhaps worth a try for everyone with trouble in combination with Captcha from Google:
Change the user agent override in
about:config
for the Google entries there, but especially
general.useragent.override.google.com
that it uses either the IE11 or Edge user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.135 Safari/537.36 Edge/19.10136
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko
Tested at a page which often requires around 3 solved captchas in Pale Moon - and with both user agents the page worked instantly. Using here Pale Moon 28.
Actually, even when i had to solve more captchas - I never have been seeing more than 3 of the simple ones in most cases.
Change the user agent override in
about:config
for the Google entries there, but especially
general.useragent.override.google.com
that it uses either the IE11 or Edge user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.135 Safari/537.36 Edge/19.10136
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko
Tested at a page which often requires around 3 solved captchas in Pale Moon - and with both user agents the page worked instantly. Using here Pale Moon 28.
Actually, even when i had to solve more captchas - I never have been seeing more than 3 of the simple ones in most cases.
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By faking Chrome 42 or IE 11, you will likely also run into issues on many sites that use Google assets (not just google.com) because google WILL serve application-specific code based on user agent that may (probably will) not be fully compatible with Pale Moon.
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Does anyone have any idea about the "try again" thing? WHY? Has anyone ever found anything in some logs?
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I don't think that this a PaleMoon specific issue, this used to happen to me on Firefox all the time.
UH-OH.
Posting this here because as of the last 24 hours, I have been encountering the absolute worst case scenario. Every. Single. Time.
People are saying that supposedly upgrading to 28.0 can fix the issue. The thing is, I'm very worried about potentially breaking the add-ons I use for both privacy and QoL. And in several profiles I have a lot of important URLs in my tabs that I don't want to lose. Tabs aren't saved after updating.
I've been on 27.3.0 for a while now purely out of risk aversion of breaking or losing something. I had installed from an earlier version than that, so I don't have the tarball for that specific version. (I know I'm posting about the Linux version in the Windows section, but this is a very active topic and there are more eyeballs here.) I won't be able to revert the changes if I update and something important breaks.
What do?
People are saying that supposedly upgrading to 28.0 can fix the issue. The thing is, I'm very worried about potentially breaking the add-ons I use for both privacy and QoL. And in several profiles I have a lot of important URLs in my tabs that I don't want to lose. Tabs aren't saved after updating.
I've been on 27.3.0 for a while now purely out of risk aversion of breaking or losing something. I had installed from an earlier version than that, so I don't have the tarball for that specific version. (I know I'm posting about the Linux version in the Windows section, but this is a very active topic and there are more eyeballs here.) I won't be able to revert the changes if I update and something important breaks.
What do?
Re: UH-OH.
brokenweb wrote:What do?
Off-topic:
Depending on your addons, most will function correctly. As for tabs, have you considered saving them as bookmarks or using the Session Manager extension?
Depending on your addons, most will function correctly. As for tabs, have you considered saving them as bookmarks or using the Session Manager extension?
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Re: UH-OH.
fire up a VM machine, install PM 28 and copy your profile folder over for a test runbrokenweb wrote:What do?
Re: Captchas hell
As of today PM 27 get a "please upgrade" instead of captcha. No amount of tinkering with useragent affects this. So this is forced upgrade to PM 28 by google
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That's strange. I didn't think Google knew or cared about Pale Moon.
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Re: Captchas hell
They don't need to, this msg would appear to anyone using a non-mainstream browser I guess.Isengrim wrote:That's strange. I didn't think Google knew or cared about Pale Moon.
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Re: Captchas hell
FFS anyway. I'm using 27.9.4. I've been having issues with this forever but never like this. Now I get a screwy version with check boxes on each image where the verify button gives you a long hash text. It tells you to paste it into a box below, that, but it does nothing, and there's no button to submit that.
Everyone at Google with a hand in this Godless cluster fuck, and anyone who runs a website that uses it really needs to be taken out and publicly castrated.
Everyone at Google with a hand in this Godless cluster fuck, and anyone who runs a website that uses it really needs to be taken out and publicly castrated.
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As of today, using 27.9.4, I get an un-clickable checkbox, which after a minute or so, changes to images with little checkboxes in them. As stated above, you get a long text code to paste into another box, but there's no submit button, and hitting Enter does nothing.
I'm running on Vista and PM 28 isn't compatible (with no such warning during the upgrade notice, BTW, which sucked because I had to reinstall 27.9.4 after 28 wouldn't launch).
Now what are we supposed to do?
I'm running on Vista and PM 28 isn't compatible (with no such warning during the upgrade notice, BTW, which sucked because I had to reinstall 27.9.4 after 28 wouldn't launch).
Now what are we supposed to do?
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I dunno at this time, about the logs, but I get that message often!Octopuss wrote:Does anyone have any idea about the "try again" thing? WHY? Has anyone ever found anything in some logs?
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Re: Captchas hell
digitalaudiorock wrote:... a screwy version with check boxes on each image where the verify button gives you a long hash text. It tells you to paste it into a box below, that, but it does nothing, and there's no button to submit that.
Montclair wrote:... today, using 27.9.4, I get an un-clickable checkbox, which after a minute or so, changes to un-clickable images.
@digitalaudiorock, @Montclair - Does this still happen for either of you in safe mode ?
And would you guys please provide some links to sites whose captchas behave this way?
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I haven't tried safe mode. Here's a site I use frequently. Just click on any tv show or movie and you'll get the recaptchacoffeebreak wrote:@digitalaudiorock, @Montclair - Does this still happen for either of you in safe mode ?
And would you guys please provide some links to sites whose captchas behave this way?
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//Edit: I tried safe mode and it made no difference. The issue is still present.
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