NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
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NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Beginning with the release of Pale Moon v28.0.0, Pale Moon's own internal updater will be enabled and working by default on Linux which will provide a much superior process for updating the browser than what the pminstaller is able to do. So with that said, the pminstaller tool is no longer maintained and will not work for installing or updating any version of Pale Moon 28+.
Please note that in order for the internal updater to work, the browser must be located in a user-writable location. If you previously used the pminstaller to install Pale Moon 27.x, then the browser is located in /opt which by default is not writable by a standard user account. In order to allow the internal updater to work with v28 (while leaving Pale Moon in /opt), you can perform the following steps:
1. Extract the Pale Moon 28 tarball (once released) to /opt, overriding the existing version there.
2. Run the following command from the terminal: sudo chown -R "$USER:$USER" "/opt/palemoon"
Alternatively you can also simply extract Pale Moon 28 to any user-writable location you'd like such as your Desktop or home directory, though do note that if you do this you will have to update the Pale Moon launcher in your application menu to point to the new location.
Please note that in order for the internal updater to work, the browser must be located in a user-writable location. If you previously used the pminstaller to install Pale Moon 27.x, then the browser is located in /opt which by default is not writable by a standard user account. In order to allow the internal updater to work with v28 (while leaving Pale Moon in /opt), you can perform the following steps:
1. Extract the Pale Moon 28 tarball (once released) to /opt, overriding the existing version there.
2. Run the following command from the terminal: sudo chown -R "$USER:$USER" "/opt/palemoon"
Alternatively you can also simply extract Pale Moon 28 to any user-writable location you'd like such as your Desktop or home directory, though do note that if you do this you will have to update the Pale Moon launcher in your application menu to point to the new location.
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
so it will function identically to Basilisk in the installing/updating department right? great change!
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
This is a bummer. I really enjoyed pminstaller
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Yes it will be the same functionality as Basilisk (and the current Pale Moon unstable channel).fillerup wrote:so it will function identically to Basilisk in the installing/updating department right?
Sorry. The pminstaller was originally hacked together as a short term help to people. It was never intended to be a long-term solution.fatboy wrote:This is a bummer.
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Trava, thanks for this notice
ref upgrade to PM28.
(I presently have
PM 27.9 in my Ubuntu Linux 14.04 32-bits).
Q:
if I use the easier alternative #2 (install to desktop),
will all my current addons (about 30)
still be installed and active in PM28?
(or do I have to reinstall each addon, 1X1?)
ref upgrade to PM28.
(I presently have
PM 27.9 in my Ubuntu Linux 14.04 32-bits).
Q:
if I use the easier alternative #2 (install to desktop),
will all my current addons (about 30)
still be installed and active in PM28?
(or do I have to reinstall each addon, 1X1?)
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Pale Moon will continue to use your current profile, regardless of where it is extracted to.
So no, you will not need to reinstall any addons (provided the ones you are using are compatible with Pale Moon 28).
So no, you will not need to reinstall any addons (provided the ones you are using are compatible with Pale Moon 28).
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
No Problem, thanks for letting us know.Sorry. The pminstaller was originally hacked together as a short term help to people. It was never intended to be a long-term solution.
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
@trava90
Thank you for those 2 steps ..
Worked like a charm .
Thank you for those 2 steps ..
Worked like a charm .
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Hi Trava,
Q:
If I install PMv28
(using your alternative Step#2, above)
to either:
my Home or my Desktop folder,
will I still be able to call my current PMv27.9.4?.
My current PMv27.9.4 is now in the /opt folder...
In other words:
will PMv27.9.4 still be available? (as a backup...).
Thanks!
(Ubuntu linux 14.04 32bit)
Q:
If I install PMv28
(using your alternative Step#2, above)
to either:
my Home or my Desktop folder,
will I still be able to call my current PMv27.9.4?.
My current PMv27.9.4 is now in the /opt folder...
In other words:
will PMv27.9.4 still be available? (as a backup...).
Thanks!
(Ubuntu linux 14.04 32bit)
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Yes it will still be available however both versions will share the same profile which is not backwards-compatible (i.e. once the profile has been updated for v28 you will likely run into issues if you try to go back to v27).
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Thanks @trava90
Extracted to /home and changed the location in Settings/Preferred Applications (Xubuntu 16.04)
I suppose it's safe to remove V27 through the pminstaller, or will it erase the profile?
Extracted to /home and changed the location in Settings/Preferred Applications (Xubuntu 16.04)
I suppose it's safe to remove V27 through the pminstaller, or will it erase the profile?
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
No the pminstaller will not touch your profile during uninstallation.
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Uninstalled V27 and everything fine, thanks.
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
To Trava90.
I am trying to follow your instructions for keeping PM 28 in the opt file and still be able to have auto updates. I am not clear on how to run the command below:
Run the following command from the terminal: sudo chown -R "$USER:$USER" "/opt/palemoon"
Can you give me detailed instructions for running the above command?
Thank you
I am trying to follow your instructions for keeping PM 28 in the opt file and still be able to have auto updates. I am not clear on how to run the command below:
Run the following command from the terminal: sudo chown -R "$USER:$USER" "/opt/palemoon"
Can you give me detailed instructions for running the above command?
Thank you
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Open a terminal window and copy/paste the entire command into the terminal. That's it.
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Will the pminstaller reappear in an updated version, or is it gone for good?
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Gone for good, now that PM's internal updater is functional in Linux.
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Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
So....(forgive my denseness)....when a new version of Pale Moon is available, I will get a pop up? Or it will update automatically?
Re: NOTICE: pminstaller is no longer maintained
Depends on what you have your preferences set to in Preferences > Advanced > Update, and whether or not your installation is in a user-writable directory/folder.nevadacrab wrote:when a new version of Pale Moon is available, I will get a pop up? Or it will update automatically?
If it's user-writable and you have it set to "Automatically install updates," it will automatically install them.
If it's set to "Check for updates, but let choose whether to install them" or if it's not user-writable then I presume you'll get a pop-up. (Travis, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
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