Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
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Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Today, Pale Moon 12.1 Portable vs Firefox 12 + 13 zip version.
Testet every (x86) browser with a fresh profile and no customization under windows 7 x64 SP1.
http://futuremark.com/peacekeeper (higher is better)
Fx12: 1747
Fx13: 1815
PaleMoon: 1925
http://dromaeo.com/?jslib (higher is better)
Fx12: 183.76runs/s
Fx13: 202.83runs/s
PaleMoon: 226.67runs/s - but hang short at DOM Events (jQuery)
http://dromaeo.com/?dom (higher is better)
Fx12: 909.07runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
Fx13: 946.81runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
PaleMoon: 1294.19runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider/sunspider.html (lower is better)
Fx12: 261.9ms +/- 0.8%
Fx13: 257.3ms +/- 0.8%
PaleMoon: 247.3ms +/- 7.0%
http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/bench ... 7/run.html (higher is better)
Fx12: 6179
Fx13: 6204
PaleMoon: 6680
Testet every (x86) browser with a fresh profile and no customization under windows 7 x64 SP1.
http://futuremark.com/peacekeeper (higher is better)
Fx12: 1747
Fx13: 1815
PaleMoon: 1925
http://dromaeo.com/?jslib (higher is better)
Fx12: 183.76runs/s
Fx13: 202.83runs/s
PaleMoon: 226.67runs/s - but hang short at DOM Events (jQuery)
http://dromaeo.com/?dom (higher is better)
Fx12: 909.07runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
Fx13: 946.81runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
PaleMoon: 1294.19runs/s - hang short at DOM Query
http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider/sunspider.html (lower is better)
Fx12: 261.9ms +/- 0.8%
Fx13: 257.3ms +/- 0.8%
PaleMoon: 247.3ms +/- 7.0%
http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/bench ... 7/run.html (higher is better)
Fx12: 6179
Fx13: 6204
PaleMoon: 6680
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Thanks for taking the time to run those benchmarks!
The short hangs you talk about, what exactly do you mean? You have to realize that these tests are very CPU intensive so the browser may become unresponsive while it's running the test.
The short hangs you talk about, what exactly do you mean? You have to realize that these tests are very CPU intensive so the browser may become unresponsive while it's running the test.
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Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
On Real World performance, I do get some hanging when I am scrolling and highlighting text, since I am a hyper-extensive user.
Smooth scroll on and off.
Hardly a problem on Aurora and Nightly, yet they have the same extensions, I will have to find and disable what causes that on PM, though.
The only thing not on Aurora and Nightly is the Statusbar, not even the Status-4-Evar. Hmm...I will quickie note if I find the culprit, after I try a new Profy.
Edit: This hardly happens with all add-ons disabled, only PM Statusbar on, so time to crawl for the add-on causing this.
Plugins are not causing this.
Edit 2: It was Brief when getting updates, not what I expected really...and/or Tabs Mix Plus.
Smooth scroll on and off.
Hardly a problem on Aurora and Nightly, yet they have the same extensions, I will have to find and disable what causes that on PM, though.
The only thing not on Aurora and Nightly is the Statusbar, not even the Status-4-Evar. Hmm...I will quickie note if I find the culprit, after I try a new Profy.
Edit: This hardly happens with all add-ons disabled, only PM Statusbar on, so time to crawl for the add-on causing this.
Plugins are not causing this.
Edit 2: It was Brief when getting updates, not what I expected really...and/or Tabs Mix Plus.
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
I mean with short hang a browser breeze with the windows title "no response".
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Yeah that would be the result of the browser being so busy running the test at full bore that it is slow to report that it's still alive to the O.S., that's to be expected.dark_moon wrote:I mean with short hang a browser breeze with the windows title "no response".
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"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Yes, but why dont hang Firefox on the one test who Pale Moon freeze?
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Most likely because Pale Moon does things faster than Firefox, so there's less "idle" time for the browser.dark_moon wrote:Yes, but why dont hang Firefox on the one test who Pale Moon freeze?
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"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
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"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
The later versions of the Fox are being focused on hanging, but PM has had that covered(maybe something is telling PM to slow down because websites load much faster on PM to begin with).dark_moon wrote:Yes, but why dont hang Firefox on the one test who Pale Moon freeze?
Also, I get the "Not responding" due to Flash, no browser has been able to tame that.
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
Today i test the current palemoon 12.2 with a fresh profile vs 3 various optimized firefox versions.
The 3 versions are:
http://code.google.com/p/lawlietfox (version 12.0-1)
http://code.google.com/p/pcxfirefox (version 13.0)
http://www1.plala.or.jp/tete009/en-US/s ... 130_VC8PGO (version 13.0)
There the benchmarks:
futuremark.com/peacekeeper
lawlietfox 2008
pcx 2159
tete 2100
palemoon 1843
http://dromaeo.com/?dom
lawlietfox 1034.43runs/s
pcx 1157.98runs/s
tete 1073.34runs/s
palemoon 1251.03runs/s
http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider/sunspider.html
lawlietfox 215.9ms +/- 0.8%
pcx 217.9ms +/- 0.3%
tete 223.0ms +/- 0.8%
palemoon 247.2ms +/- 4.8%
http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/bench ... 7/run.html
lawlietfox 6837
pcx 6824
tete 6564
palemoon 6595
I found the versions in the german firefox forum
The 3 versions are:
http://code.google.com/p/lawlietfox (version 12.0-1)
http://code.google.com/p/pcxfirefox (version 13.0)
http://www1.plala.or.jp/tete009/en-US/s ... 130_VC8PGO (version 13.0)
There the benchmarks:
futuremark.com/peacekeeper
lawlietfox 2008
pcx 2159
tete 2100
palemoon 1843
http://dromaeo.com/?dom
lawlietfox 1034.43runs/s
pcx 1157.98runs/s
tete 1073.34runs/s
palemoon 1251.03runs/s
http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider/sunspider.html
lawlietfox 215.9ms +/- 0.8%
pcx 217.9ms +/- 0.3%
tete 223.0ms +/- 0.8%
palemoon 247.2ms +/- 4.8%
http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/bench ... 7/run.html
lawlietfox 6837
pcx 6824
tete 6564
palemoon 6595
I found the versions in the german firefox forum
Re: Pale Moon vs Firefox Benchmark
So i make new benchmarks.
This time i test PM 15.3.1 vs Fx 16 + Fx 17
I test PM startet with a new profil with the zip version and test the portable version too.
peacekeeper
fx 16 1715 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
pm 15.3.1 portable 1825 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
fx 17 1827 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
pm 15.3.1 zip 1910 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
dromeo
fx 16 467.79runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185650
pm 15.3.1 portable 483.79runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185638
pm 15.3.1 zip 485.52runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185652
fx 17 498.42runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185647
sunspider
pm 15.3.1 portable 284.5ms +/- 8.2%
fx 16 283.6ms +/- 13.5%
pm 15.3.1 zip 272.4ms +/- 9.4%
fx 17 241.7ms +/- 13.5%
kraken
pm 15.3.1 zip 3665.8ms +/- 1.4%
pm 15.3.1 portable 3613.2ms +/- 1.2%
fx 16 3511.5ms +/- 1.9%
fx 17 3419.4ms +/- 1.2%
v8
pm 15.3.1 portable 5728
pm 15.3.1 zip 6325
fx 16 6589
fx 17 7322
html5 test
pm 15.3.1 portable/ zip 353 and 10 bonus points
fx 16 372 and 10 bonus points
fx 17 392 and 10 bonus points
chalkboard
fx 17 498.28 Seconds
fx 16 58.19 Seconds
pm 15.3.1 zip 47.36 Seconds
pm 15.3.1 portable 46.79 Seconds
asteroids
fx 16 1440 Average FPS: 30
fx 17 1507 Average FPS: 32
pm 15.3.1 zip 1591 Average FPS: 34
pm 15.3.1 portable 1623 Average FPS: 34
html5 benchmark
fx 16 7002 Total CPU Time: 19.89s, Total Lag: 18ms
fx 17 7443 Total CPU Time: 16.65s, Total Lag: 53ms
pm 15.3.1 portable 7743 Total CPU Time: 14.51s, Total Lag: 87ms
pm 15.3.1 zip 8622 Total CPU Time: 12.05s, Total Lag: 62ms
webviz
pm 15.3.1 zip 6620 / 29.1 fps
pm 15.3.1 portable 6270 / 27.25 fps
fx 17 6510 / 27.72 fps
fx 16 6920 / 31.98 fps
This time i test PM 15.3.1 vs Fx 16 + Fx 17
I test PM startet with a new profil with the zip version and test the portable version too.
peacekeeper
fx 16 1715 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
pm 15.3.1 portable 1825 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
fx 17 1827 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
pm 15.3.1 zip 1910 HTML5 Capabilities 5/7
dromeo
fx 16 467.79runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185650
pm 15.3.1 portable 483.79runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185638
pm 15.3.1 zip 485.52runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185652
fx 17 498.42runs/s http://dromaeo.com/?id=185647
sunspider
pm 15.3.1 portable 284.5ms +/- 8.2%
fx 16 283.6ms +/- 13.5%
pm 15.3.1 zip 272.4ms +/- 9.4%
fx 17 241.7ms +/- 13.5%
kraken
pm 15.3.1 zip 3665.8ms +/- 1.4%
pm 15.3.1 portable 3613.2ms +/- 1.2%
fx 16 3511.5ms +/- 1.9%
fx 17 3419.4ms +/- 1.2%
v8
pm 15.3.1 portable 5728
pm 15.3.1 zip 6325
fx 16 6589
fx 17 7322
html5 test
pm 15.3.1 portable/ zip 353 and 10 bonus points
fx 16 372 and 10 bonus points
fx 17 392 and 10 bonus points
chalkboard
fx 17 498.28 Seconds
fx 16 58.19 Seconds
pm 15.3.1 zip 47.36 Seconds
pm 15.3.1 portable 46.79 Seconds
asteroids
fx 16 1440 Average FPS: 30
fx 17 1507 Average FPS: 32
pm 15.3.1 zip 1591 Average FPS: 34
pm 15.3.1 portable 1623 Average FPS: 34
html5 benchmark
fx 16 7002 Total CPU Time: 19.89s, Total Lag: 18ms
fx 17 7443 Total CPU Time: 16.65s, Total Lag: 53ms
pm 15.3.1 portable 7743 Total CPU Time: 14.51s, Total Lag: 87ms
pm 15.3.1 zip 8622 Total CPU Time: 12.05s, Total Lag: 62ms
webviz
pm 15.3.1 zip 6620 / 29.1 fps
pm 15.3.1 portable 6270 / 27.25 fps
fx 17 6510 / 27.72 fps
fx 16 6920 / 31.98 fps