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athenian200
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by athenian200 » 2019-10-24, 22:50
Hey, I'm just curious...
I'm trying to set my browser up to look like Netscape 4.x... and I noticed there's a couple of really minor things missing.
The "Search" and "Security" icons.
It's not a huge issue since I can do searches using the URL bar, or set my home page to go to my favorite search engine. I could probably find some way to put the icons in for just myself, but I figured that since the theme's maintainer is still around... it wouldn't hurt to ask. It's just that it's already SO close.
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moonbat
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by moonbat » 2019-10-25, 02:03
Security icon is used in Preferences->Security, and also in the Page Info. There's only so much it can resemble Netscape short of being Netscape itself
I don't remember what the security button on the toolbar did in Netscape, but there's other things like 'Guide' and 'What's new?/What's cool?' (merged into New&cool in 4.0) that has no modern equivalent.
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athenian200
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by athenian200 » 2019-10-25, 03:06
moonbat wrote: ↑2019-10-25, 02:03
I don't remember what the security button on the toolbar did in Netscape.
It was the same thing as going to Tools > Page Info > Security Tab. That's why I have the Page Info button there from another extension.
I believe the Search button just took you to a search engine.
but there's other things like 'Guide' and 'What's new?/What's cool?' (merged into New&cool in 4.0) that has no modern equivalent.
Guide was just a series of drop-down links to pages like People, Yellow Pages, etc:
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/pte/tut ... tscap4.htm
And as for what's cool/what's new, and that "The Internet" link?
I think that would have been something like this:
http://home.mcom.com/home/about-the-internet.html
http://home.mcom.com/home/whats-cool.html
http://home.mcom.com/home/whats-new.html
A modern equivalent of "What's new/What's cool" might be:
https://news.ycombinator.com/
Or something like that.
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by moonbat » 2019-10-25, 03:11
Wow, the nostalgia!!
Thanks for the links!
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by FranklinDM » 2019-10-25, 05:44
athenian200 wrote: ↑2019-10-24, 22:50
The "Search" and "Security" icons.
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by FranklinDM » 2019-10-25, 10:50
Sorry if I misunderstood the question. I can't really do much in regards with the theme aside from styling the toolbar icons as only an extension can add toolbar buttons to the browser.
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athenian200
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by athenian200 » 2019-10-25, 23:07
FranklinDM wrote: ↑2019-10-25, 10:50
Sorry if I misunderstood the question. I can't really do much in regards with the theme aside from styling the toolbar icons as only an extension can add toolbar buttons to the browser.
Oh, I didn't know about that part, that themes couldn't add toolbar buttons. That explains why those weren't there already.
The add-on I used was this one:
caa:addon/toolbar-buttons
https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/
It has a ton of buttons, though, and I think maybe I could try making a custom pack that just contains the missing toolbar buttons using this as an example.
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by Mæstro » 2019-11-28, 00:45
Is there any way to restore Pale Moon's default, blue progress bar? I have already found how to replace the cylon by the grey progress bar in the CSS: uncommenting
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@import url("chrome://browser/skin/moonscape/sub/Status-4-Evar_-_Gray_progress_meter_(Always_visible)_(With_frame)_Fx.css");
I cannot seem to find something in the CSS that fully returns the original, though. How would I do this?
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FranklinDM
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by FranklinDM » 2019-12-02, 11:31
Try including this snippet:
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#status4evar-progress-bar {
-moz-appearance: progressbar !important;
}
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by FranklinDM » 2020-01-28, 10:59
Update to Moonscape:
v6.26
- Initial support for Pale Moon 29
Update options:
GitHub releases,
APO, manually check for updates through the Add-ons Manager.
Moonscape Messenger for Interlink Mail & Newsgroups is available at the
Interlink Add-ons Site.
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Baloo
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by Baloo » 2020-05-01, 15:39
Hello FranklinDM,
There seems to be an issue with the "Calendar" icon in the settings on Interlink when using the MOONSCAPE theme.

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by FranklinDM » 2020-05-05, 08:00
Baloo wrote: ↑2020-05-01, 15:39
issue with the "Calendar" icon
Thanks for reporting, this will be fixed in the next release.
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by Moonchild » 2020-05-05, 11:46
It's like abstract modern art!
What caused this? I'm curious

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by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-05-05, 12:16
What it looks like to me is the image map is being displayed but no crop info for the extension tab overlay'd.. Think toolbar button image where it is applied but if you don't have the style for the specific element to cut out the image you just have the whole thing. As far as this type of thing is concerned, it is the best possible style issue cause it does have size styling so it doesn't just expand out and overflow the everything.
Obviously, for the calendar you need to specify a different image because the application styling won't have the desired image from that map.
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by Lootyhoof » 2020-05-05, 13:13
Moonchild wrote: ↑2020-05-05, 11:46
What caused this?
It's due to
this, which applies one PNG across all the prefpane buttons. As the calendar icon is included in that, it also has its image changed to that. There are a couple of approaches that could be taken here:
1. Add the calendar icon to the options.png file and provide relevant mapping. The simplest perhaps (from a code perspective), this would also mean icons need creating for the calendar (not necessarily for the OTHER calendar icons, just the one in Preferences).
2. Specify each prefpane button's icon in the above rule instead of all the icons. Obviously a little more CSS but means you can skip the calendar icon. This does mean it would look out of place though with the others (though that's Franklin's decision).
The joys of theming.

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moonbat
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by moonbat » 2020-05-05, 13:52
Why do they have such a weird implementation? Is it that hard to keep separate icon images for each preference, or is there some major performance boost gained by loading one image instead of multiple?
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Lootyhoof
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by Lootyhoof » 2020-05-05, 13:54
There is no right or wrong way to load images like this. That method of loading images is used across the majority of themes - including the default themes on both the browser and otherwise.
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by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-05-05, 14:34
Remember loading images is a navigation request technically and loading fewer resources is faster sometimes than loading multple ones or some shit. Either or is fine.
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Moonchild
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by Moonchild » 2020-05-05, 15:23
It's due to this, which applies one PNG across all the prefpane buttons.
Ah right, thanks for pointing that out. Perfectly clear.
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