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[Lucio Chiappetti]

I occasionally frequent https://fvwmforums.org/ which is a discourse-managed forum
Now it gives a message

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Your browser will soon be incompatible with this community. To keep participating here, please upgrade your browser or learn more.

which leads to page https://meta.discourse.org/t/dropping-i ... 025/358131

Could it be overridden with some user agent fudging ?
Note that I have already a filter in uBO fvwmforums.org/assets/browser-detect-* and perhaps a Modify HTTP response filter suggested by adoxa earlier on this forum (I am not sure whether it is still actrive along to the uBO filter)

[Moonchild]

Try setting general.useragent.compatMode.version to 128.0

[Lucio Chiappetti]

Thanks.
The change is effective on next July, may be I'll try now if what you suggest removes the warning.
Apparently has no effect on the warning script ... but let's wait July for the real thing.

[Goodydino]

I get only a blank page with that site.
I changed the user-agent compat mode. My request header still says compatible with Firefox 115. What is the compat mode?

[Lucio Chiappetti]

As I said (search the forum for other threads on discourse) sites managed by discourse have a browser-detect script which shall be filtered out (in uBO, in modify-http-response or both, I have it for two forums I frequent)

[vannilla]

Off-topic:

If you’re seeing the banner, then it means that your browser is missing support for one of these three features:
relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex

But why.

[Moonchild]

Off-topic:

But why.

Because making websites broadly compatible with everyone and actually serving the end-user is so 2005.
(i.e. "Use chrome or GTFO")

[back2themoon]

Another Discourse forum I visit which was "fixed" by Modify HTTP Response, just threw a novel message: (as mentioned above, but with no details)

"Your browser will soon be incompatible with this community. To keep participating here, please upgrade your browser or learn more."

Dropping iOS 15 & other old browsers in July 2025

There's some interesting info there:

On the technical side, the features we’ll be requiring including relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex, all of which will enable improved experiences for Discourse users.

We are not looking at the user agent, so spoofing it won’t help. We’re using feature-detection for the three features mentioned in the OP. If the browser doesn’t support them, the warning banner will be triggered.

(The original version of this announcement listed 1st May 2025 as the cutoff date. Based on community feedback, that has been pushed back to July 2025.)

I don't know what's the Pale Moon status of those three features, but perhaps it might be worth to post/interact/complain there, too? They do affect many websites, unfortunately.

[Gemmaugr]

Another Discourse forum I visit which was "fixed" by Modify HTTP Response, just threw a novel message: (as mentioned above, but with no details)

"Your browser will soon be incompatible with this community. To keep participating here, please upgrade your browser or learn more."

Dropping iOS 15 & other old browsers in July 2025

There's some interesting info there:

On the technical side, the features we’ll be requiring including relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex, all of which will enable improved experiences for Discourse users.

We are not looking at the user agent, so spoofing it won’t help. We’re using feature-detection for the three features mentioned in the OP. If the browser doesn’t support them, the warning banner will be triggered.

(The original version of this announcement listed 1st May 2025 as the cutoff date. Based on community feedback, that has been pushed back to July 2025.)

I don't know what's the Pale Moon status of those three features, but perhaps it might be worth to post/interact/complain there, too? They do affect many websites, unfortunately.

"On the technical side, the features we’ll be requiring including relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex, all of which will enable improved experiences for Discourse users."

F12 shows that Pale Moon has LookBehindRegEx, but not SubGrid or Relative Color Syntax.

"Feature detection result Object { relativeColor: false, subgrid: false, lookbehindRegex: true }"

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[Lucio Chiappetti]

The "three missing features" mentioned are reported in the "learn more" link in the warning message (currently it appears only on one of two discourse-based forums I frequent). I have no idea whether:

• there is a script in discourse which actually checks those features are active, or is just based on the user agent
• which of those features are already in Pale Moon or are planned to be in next releases

[BenFenner]

I have no idea whether:

• there is a script in discourse which actually checks those features are active, or is just based on the user agent
• which of those features are already in Pale Moon or are planned to be in next releases

Both questions answered in the immediate post before yours.

[adoxa]

I'll stick with what I said in the other topic: easy enough to bypass, but since you can just dismiss it anyway I'll wait until MayJuly.

[frostknight]

Because making websites broadly compatible with everyone and actually serving the end-user is so 2005.
(i.e. "Use chrome or GTFO")

Actually, its more like use webextensions or GTFO I think. Or to put another way, use a modern web browser or GTFO.

for me this means, you will browse unhappy no matter what!

Either I use a crappy looking UI or I run into incompatibilities.