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https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by andikay » 2022-05-31, 11:03

For a few weeks now https://gaming.amazon.com/ has not been working on Pale Moon anymore, it just shows a blank purple page. I tested this with my normal profile as well as a completely fresh one without any addons installed, the result is the same. I have also tried activating WebComponents in about:config, it did not change anything. The following error message can be seen in the console:
Error: SyntaxError: invalid identity escape in regular expression
Source File: https://d2u4zldaqlyj2w.cloudfront.net/2 ... js/main.js
Line: 2, Column: 1582776
Source Code:
R=e=>e.trim().toLowerCase(),F=e=>e.normalize("NFD").replace(/\p{Diacritic}/gu,"");var z=n(96781),j=n(484),B=n(69545),U=n
This issue does not happen with Firefox.

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by vannilla » 2022-05-31, 14:34

invalid identity escape in regular expression
This is a known issue which is being already worked on. Unfortunately it required big changes that can break the rest of the browser, so it's going to take a while still.
This issue does not happen with Firefox.
At this point in time, whether or not it works on Firefox is almost always irrelevant to Pale Moon.

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-31, 15:00

FYI it only works in Firefox because they copied in Chrome's regex engine. This non-standard way of handling regular expressions is 100% Google.
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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by andikay » 2022-05-31, 15:21

vannilla wrote:
2022-05-31, 14:34
At this point in time, whether or not it works on Firefox is almost always irrelevant to Pale Moon.
It is relevant in the sense that it shows that the issue is actually with Pale Moon and not the website. I cannot speak as to whether or not this is implemented right or wrong etc., only that it works with another browser and does not work with PM at this point in time.

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-06-01, 12:34

andikay wrote:
2022-05-31, 15:21
It is relevant in the sense that it shows that the issue is actually with Pale Moon and not the website.
Not necessarily. You can't just conclude that it's not the website's issue because "it works in Firefox". We aren't Firefox or a rebuild of it. In fact, Firefox isn't Firefox anymore these days either :P
Either way, just because "it works in another browser" generally means that the webmasters have only tested it against "another browser" (usually Chrome). The implementation on the website might just as well be wrong, and the browser being correct. While I understand it's not black & white, and Pale Moon is indeed different in what features it supports and does not support (and that may be a deficiency, depending on what way you look at it), mentioning something "works in browser X" usually doesn't provide any more information for us to go on, which is what vanilla was pointing out.
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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by andikay » 2022-06-01, 14:19

Agree to disagree =). As I said, I cannot speak as to whether it is implemented correctly or not, etc., but the fact that a website works in other browsers shows that it is not generally broken and that it is indeed an issue with PM - no matter on which side. So it is important to test sites with different browsers to find out if it only does not work in PM or in other browsers as well. If this info is not relevant for you then you should overthink your stance on this.

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-06-01, 14:38

andikay wrote:
2022-06-01, 14:19
but the fact that a website works in other browsers shows that it is not generally broken and that it is indeed an issue with PM
Like i said it's not that black and white.
I can make a website that works in PM and not in other browsers, too. Does that automatically mean that other browsers are at fault? No, it may just as well be that I'm using a quirk in Goanna to make it work in my browser. So you cannot say it "is indeed an issue with PM" by casual observation.
The reason the "It works in Firefox" remark tends to get an immediate response is because we've seen many people using that as an excuse to unfairly rag on Pale Moon for not exactly being the same as Firefox. You may be right or you may be wrong in asserting it's immediately Pale Moon's fault. It's just not that simple. Of course I can hear you now "But if it works in other browsers that's all that matters" and in part you are right and you can simplify it that way -- and there you have the exact premise why webmasters have stopped caring about being browser agnostic while at the same time not caring about standards adoption and using drafts: the criterion has become "does it work in the one engine that has the largest market share?" and that being the end of it. The exception to the rule is the important one in that situation: i.e. if it would also not work in Firefox then that would be important to mention, but otherwise there's no point in mentioning web compatibility because it can be assumed that webmasters will ensure compatibility with Chrome/Blink (which is pretty much everything else out there).

I hope that clarifies it. It's not as much a matter of disagreeing with the observations but rather disagreeing with that you cannot say with certainty that it is Pale Moon having an issue and jumping to that conclusion. It could be, but doesn't necessarily have to be. :-)
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Considering Amazon is part of FAANG i'm really not surprised they are going to focus on targeting Chrome.
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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by andikay » 2022-06-04, 03:16

As I said, whether PM has an issue with the site or the site has an issue with PM is beyond my scope as a user. My simple point was that it does work in other browsers. If I did not test it with other browsers and it turns out the site is generally broken I am sure I would get a proper shítstorm here for not checking and not doing my due diligence ;). So I would suggest not taking it personal when someone says "it works in Firefox", it's not a diss of PM, it's simply stating a fact that the site is not generally broken :).

Also, I have been using PM for 6-7 years now and while I would love PM to work on popular sites like YT like Firefox does I know that PM has different goals, a different team and team size and different resources than a company like Mozilla or even Google. PM is the equivalent of an "indie browser" and one cannot expect everything to work as well as in browsers that have billion dollar companies behind it. It comes with the territory and I can work around that.

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-06-04, 09:38

I was just trying to explain why there tends to be an immediate response that "it's not relevant" or "not helpful" to troubleshoot it if no further details are given (which would also be outside of normal user scope). Maybe I did a poor job of it; sorry in that case.
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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by andikay » 2022-06-04, 16:05

And what would those "further details" be, for example?

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Re: https://gaming.amazon.com/ only shows blank purple page

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-06-15, 08:54

The troubleshooting information and console output requested in a template each time you create a new post in the web compatibility board.
So many people just add the basics of browser & OS version and skip over the console output, which would have an actual clue as to why the page is breaking.
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