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YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
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My FB name is half real, so I guess I am half lucky.
My FB name is half real, so I guess I am half lucky.
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
This may be just 2 coincidences, but the problem SEEMS to be gone on my end. Maybe Google is actually doing something about it. Maybe.
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It's gotten worse for me. Now comments don't even load at all. Something I recall happening a few years back as well. I'll make a thread about it if I get frisky.
It's gotten worse for me. Now comments don't even load at all. Something I recall happening a few years back as well. I'll make a thread about it if I get frisky.
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Unfortunately, I cannot say it's gone on mine. I just tried, but my test comment vanished as usual...
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Very cool , thanks for sharing.back2themoon wrote: ↑2021-06-30, 14:42Is this IMDb Message Board backup/archive considered complete? Looks pretty nice.
https://filmboards.com/
update: looks like you can actually continue posting - sort of a seamless continuation of the old boards
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But again, it may be just my paranoia.
For some reason, I really don't think that alone would stop FB from tracking people and collecting their very real data.
But again, it may be just my paranoia.
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The FBI may know it is me who's posting. But the average user won't.
EDIT: some comments of mine are still auto-deleted in seconds. And some stay.The FBI may know it is me who's posting. But the average user won't.
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
confirmed
comments in PM are instantly deleted, the timestamp behinde the comment stays at "0 seconds ago"
in Chrome (Opera) no problems at all
comments in PM are instantly deleted, the timestamp behinde the comment stays at "0 seconds ago"
in Chrome (Opera) no problems at all
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
I think we had already long since established that this is a generic youtube problem. It's pointless to still make posts now confirming the problem, it's already been confirmed many times over.
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
ok, just want to be sure this was not a problem from one or two users, and it was new to me
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
You should have read the entire thread before deciding to post.
If you had, you would have known.
Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
I used to post substantive comments in response to YouTube videos about healthcare-reform policy and politics when a curious thing happened: around a month and a half ago, I stopped getting any replies. And then I discovered something even more curious: I see all of my comments when I'm signed in to YouTube and revisit a given video in Pale Moon, but when I visit the same page in Brave, where I don't sign in and where I'm presumably difficult to fingerprint, my comments are nowhere to be found. The comment counts are the same in both browsers, but my comments are just not there. It would appear that YouTube lets me post comments and displays them to me, when it knows that it's me who's looking, but to no one else. Interesting. I've come up with a few hypotheses for this sneaky form of censorship, but honestly, I suspect it would take a barrage of subpoenas to get a partially honest explanation out of Alphabet/Google/YouTube.
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I've also noticed the comment count increments when I make a comment that seemingly goes into the ether.
Ahh yes, the classic Don Quixote (shadow) ban.[PCMartin] wrote: ↑2021-07-27, 20:20It would appear that YouTube lets me post comments and displays them to me, when it knows that it's me who's looking, but to no one else.
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That was my guess as well, but then it became clear it's mostly my browser. A select few comments stay and don't go anywhere. Also replies I make on MY videos stay. I theorize this is an AI that was made to protect the tender feelings of YTbers from "toxic comments", and that AI is stupid enough to think your browser choice alone is enough to make you SUS. I think the only way to speed up the solution is for more people to get loud about it (elsewhere).[PCMartin] wrote: ↑2021-07-27, 20:20It would appear that YouTube lets me post comments and displays them to me, when it knows that it's me who's looking, but to no one else. Interesting. I've come up with a few hypotheses for this sneaky form of censorship...
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
YouTube has received ALOT of complaints about disappearing comments from what looks like a broad swathe of viewers and channel owners, and say they're looking into it.
See YouTube community help "comments" subject area,
and in particular this sticky thread posted by YT staff: "Recent Reports of Missing Comments"
(unfortunately, you'll need to use a mainstream browser to see more than the first page)
See YouTube community help "comments" subject area,
and in particular this sticky thread posted by YT staff: "Recent Reports of Missing Comments"
(unfortunately, you'll need to use a mainstream browser to see more than the first page)
Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
It isn't an exclusive issue with us but I bet it is a considered factor when it does happen. Aside from Domestic Terrorism by White Supremacists and anyone who questions anything.
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I think it's just broken "A.I."; whether that is broken "on purpose" to shadow ban/outright censor some non-mainstream browsers/users/groups/content or not, I don't know. But it's clearly not working as it should for the service provided.
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
As of late, some comments go through. Considering I barely post because of the issue, this is a huge improvement on Google's part.
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Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
I don't see how going from "almost certainly going to delete my comments I spend time and effort on" to "it may or may not be deleing my comments I spend time and effort on" could be called a "huge improvement". It's still broken. Just broken in a slightly less consistent way.
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: YouTube removes comments created with Pale Moon
Well i just registered to post about it and looks like i am not crazy after all.
No comments whatsoever are posted. It looks very similar to how shadow banning works. It appears visible for the viewing session but is gone soon after.
Any chance we could fool it and make our beloved browser to wear the proverbial sheep clothing and attempt to look like some other browser ?
No comments whatsoever are posted. It looks very similar to how shadow banning works. It appears visible for the viewing session but is gone soon after.
Any chance we could fool it and make our beloved browser to wear the proverbial sheep clothing and attempt to look like some other browser ?