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Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2021-06-08, 21:09

https://www.megapixel.cz/tokina-atx-i-1 ... -pro-canon
A little further down the page is a section called "Foťte úchvatné snímky pomocí filtrů" where you can drag a slider inside photos to check before/after. Dragging the slider around in PM is extremely laggy while it's buttery smooth in Firefox.
Any idea what the problem might be?

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Re: Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by THX-1139 » 2021-06-08, 22:17

No problems for me, drags just fine with no apparent lag...maybe you have an extension or something else interfering
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Re: Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by Night Wing » 2021-06-08, 23:54

The slider works for me without any problems.

At this time, I'm using 64 bit linux Pale Moon 29.2.1 running in 64 bit linux Mint (Ulyssa) Xfce. The only extensions I use are NoSquint and uBlock Origin.
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Re: Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2021-06-09, 08:22

That's really weird.
I tried again in safe mode and it's still laggy as hell. There's like half a second delay when trying to drag the slider across.

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Re: Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by Freddy » 2021-06-15, 21:46

Super-laggy for me too. Tested with my regular profile as well as in a completely fresh portable install of 29.2.1 with no changes to any settings.

Troubleshooting Information for the portable install:

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Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 29.2.1 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20210604174526
Update Channel: release
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In Vivaldi (on the same machine) it is smooth.

I also tested on a different machine, with mixed results. In a fresh portable install, it is really laggy.

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Application Basics
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Build ID: 20210604174526
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In an old profile (on the other machine) with addons and such, it is just a little bit laggy, but nowhere near as bad.

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Re: Web compatibility or performace difference between browsers? www.megapixel.cz

Unread post by biopsin » 2021-06-16, 07:07

Its smooth when sliding slowly and delayed when sliding fast.
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Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-06-16, 08:57

It seems to be laggy because some other scripting on the site is swamping the js engine with constant processing calls. That makes event-driven updates "laggy"
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Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2021-06-27, 08:06

But why does it not lag in Firefox in the slightest? If the website is coded like shit, shouldn't it performa equally badly in any browser?

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-06-27, 12:05

Pale Moon != Firefox

While our compositing and JS engines are very similar to Gecko, they are not the same and will act differently under different kinds of loads.
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Unread post by Moonraker » 2021-06-27, 14:49

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2021-06-27, 08:06
But why does it not lag in Firefox in the slightest? If the website is coded like shit, shouldn't it performa equally badly in any browser?
probably becaue the website has been coded specifically for firefox or chrome.
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Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2021-07-03, 03:45

Moonchild wrote:
2021-06-27, 12:05
Pale Moon != Firefox

While our compositing and JS engines are very similar to Gecko, they are not the same and will act differently under different kinds of loads.
I know, but I generally assume PM is better optimized and whatnot.
Maybe these differences could be explained by the multi process nature of FF?...

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-07-03, 12:52

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
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I know, but I generally assume PM is better optimized and whatnot.
Maybe these differences could be explained by the multi process nature of FF?...
No, you're making wild assumptions here.

First, multiprocess will at most just mask these things, not actually prevent it.

Second, "optimization" will do nothing if scripting is written for the quirks of a particular engine that may be detrimental for anything else. For example, say, a less optimized engine just happens to have one particular function that is a lot faster in their code (because they cut corners when implementing it or what not), and the more optimized engine is being fed scripts that have been written specifically using that one particular function (because e.g. their performance telemetry told them it performed better using a non-standard function on their preferred engine) then the result is that the more optimized engine will perform slower/poorer white it is generally better.
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