Pale Moon no longer supported at Github.com since 28.16.0?

[[PCMartin]]

I updated to Pale Moon 28.16.0 (x64) for Windows earlier today and subsequently visited Github.com to provide follow-up feedback on a Pale Moon extension hosted there. For the first time, I got a message that my browser was not supported, and the message-box buttons no longer worked. (I'm using the native user agent, which I gather was the previous "workaround" for Github to continue working in Pale Moon.) Can Github compatibility once again be jury-rigged on your end? Thanks very much for looking into this. All the best.

[vannilla]

Microsoft (and thus GitHub) gave up to Google's dictatorship of the web and so it started using technologies that as of now work only on Chrome, Chrome-alikes and Chrome derivates and there no real workarounds.
The Pale Moon and UXP teams are working on it, but it's a long process to implement Google's garbage.

[bgstack15]

It works in Firefox 82, so it is not yet exclusively limited to the Chrome-alikes.

[coffeebreak]

Can Github compatibility once again be jury-rigged

Not a fix, but there is an extension that helps: Github Web Components Polyfill (first mentioned here).

FYI, given GitHub's lack of support, the project's repositories were moved from GitHub to a Gitea instance.
See threads here and here.

[[PCMartin]]

Microsoft (and thus GitHub) gave up to Google's dictatorship of the web and so it started using technologies that as of now work only on Chrome, Chrome-alikes and Chrome derivates and there no real workarounds.
The Pale Moon and UXP teams are working on it, but it's a long process to implement Google's garbage.

It's beyond me why Google/Alphabet's de facto usurpation of the W3C's role in setting Web standards and protocols isn't a leading focus of antitrust probes. (Well ... at least in the EU, where regulators, politicians, and judges are still subject to some semblance of conflict-of-interest and anti-corruption rules. In the US, antitrust authorities are already fully captured.) To my mind, it's a more fundamental threat than Google's search dominance, advertising "monopoly," or promotion of its own services. Only Facebook rivals Google in the volume and breadth of kompromat they have on Internet users (including regulators, pols, and judges), so I'm thinking ... blackmail? All speculation aside, effectively handing control of how the Web works over to Google/Alphabet promises a very dystopian future for the Internet.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

The answer is simple.. Actually understanding the simple answer requires complicated backstory of a bunch of events and history but the concluding answer is simple. I'm not even going to go into it though until certain things are settled.

Regardless, see my previous posts and those of others on this subject.

[[PCMartin]]

Not a fix, but there is an extension that helps: Github Web Components Polyfill (first mentioned here).

FYI, given GitHub's lack of support, the project's repositories were moved from GitHub to a Gitea instance.
See threads here and here.

Thanks for the tip on github-wc-polyfill. I don't have the technical chops to understand how filling my water closet with polyester will help, but if it makes Github work better, I'm going to install the extension.

Thanks also for bringing the Gitea move to my attention. I actually filed my initial issue report on Github back in August, before the Gitea move happened, so it looks like I might have a real excuse this time!

I really appreciated your reply. It's sometimes hard to keep up...

[moonbat]

It also doesn't help that politicians and legislators are far more clueless about tech than even the general public. They don't understand the issues involved with the advertising/search aspects, let alone what W3C is meant for and how it's been subverted.

[jb_wisemo]

Microsoft (and thus GitHub) gave up to Google's dictatorship of the web and so it started using technologies that as of now work only on Chrome, Chrome-alikes and Chrome derivates and there no real workarounds.
The Pale Moon and UXP teams are working on it, but it's a long process to implement Google's garbage.

It's beyond me why Google/Alphabet's de facto usurpation of the W3C's role in setting Web standards and protocols isn't a leading focus of antitrust probes. (Well ... at least in the EU, where regulators, politicians, and judges are still subject to some semblance of conflict-of-interest and anti-corruption rules. In the US, antitrust authorities are already fully captured.) To my mind, it's a more fundamental threat than Google's search dominance, advertising "monopoly," or promotion of its own services. Only Facebook rivals Google in the volume and breadth of kompromat they have on Internet users (including regulators, pols, and judges), so I'm thinking ... blackmail? All speculation aside, effectively handing control of how the Web works over to Google/Alphabet promises a very dystopian future for the Internet.

Has anyone with a stance (such as Moonchild productions) tried contacting the EU antitrust office about this? I suspect they don't look at issues until they are reported.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Fuck the EU.. the MOST they ever have done is fined Microsoft an amount of money that is a slap on the wrist to them. Besides, them and their barely elected to completely un-elected bureaucratic rabble have more important shit to do.. Like world domination and Microsoft is apart of that plan. Not as much as Google or Facebook mind you but still apart.

[badnick]

Has anyone with a stance (such as Moonchild productions) tried contacting the EU antitrust office about this? I suspect they don't look at issues until they are reported.

You don't know what you're talking about The EU has become the new eUSSR for several years.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8189 ... censorship
https://www.politico.eu/article/google- ... terrorist/
https://slate.com/technology/2019/10/eu ... rship.html

[New Tobin Paradigm]

I am not sure how I feel about you agreeing with me. Oh well, I'll just chalk it up to 2020.

[badnick]

Because are different subjects. Is not about agreeing or not with you , is about truth.

[andikay]

I don't have any notifications regarding browser support on GitHub, but I do have an issue where it fails to display information entirely (see screenshot). It's super annoying and things like these happen more and more with Pale Moon.

github.png

[coffeebreak]

See the 4th post from the top in this thread for a workaround.

[Raava]

Yesterday I logged into Github to comment using Linux PM 28.16.0 and got the info my browser being no longer supported. I still could log in, and also comment, but none of the markup like [[size=1] [/size]code[size=1] [/size]] or [[size=1] [/size]bold[size=1] [/size]] would work.

Then I switched to 28.17.0 and logged in today to reply again. This time I did not see the "your browser is not supported" info (maybe I only missed it, though), but still none of the markup is working.
I could still reply, but only using plain text, like with 28.16.0: no [[size=1] [/size]code[size=1] [/size]], no [[size=1] [/size]bold[size=1] [/size]], no [size=1] [/size][italic[size=1] [/size]], not any other markup works. (JavaScript is sure allowed)

[coffeebreak]

Yesterday I logged into Github ... and ...

To repeat the post right above yours --
Please see the 4th post from the top in this thread for an effective workaround to problems with GitHub.