https://www.smpte.org/

For support with specific websites

Moderator: trava90

Forum rules
Please always mention the name/domain of the website in question in your topic title.
Please one website per topic thread (to help keep things organized). While behavior on different sites might at first glance seem similar, they are not necessarily caused by the same.

Please try to include any relevant output from the Toolkit Error Console or the Developer Tools Web Console using the following procedure:
  1. Clear any current output
  2. Navigate or refresh the page in question
  3. Copy and paste Errors or seemingly relevant Warnings into a single [ code ] block.
markfilipak

https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 02:15

Pale Moon 28.14.2
Page: https://www.smpte.org/

Firefox renders this page, though it's obviously formatted for smart phones, not computer browsers.

Pale Moon makes soup. The font is so large only a couple of lines are visible with 1 or 2 chars. Applying minimal font size is still too large, but some text is then too small to read.

I've tried using both the web page's font size and my font size in 'Preferences'. I once saw a similar problem a long time ago, in a version far, far away. :-)

My laptop display is 3840x2160.
Top
User avatar
Night Wing
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 5845
Joined: 2011-10-03, 10:19
Location: Piney Woods of Southeast Texas, USA

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by Night Wing » 2020-10-11, 02:59

After clicking on your link the page renders properly for me. My monitor is 27" with 1920x1080.

At this time, I'm using 64 bit linux Pale Moon 28.14.2 running in 64 bit linux Mint 20 (Ulyana) Xfce. I have the uBlock Origin extension enabled for the site.

I'm also using Firefox Compatibility mode.
MX Linux 25.1 (Infinity) Xfce w/Pale Moon, Waterfox, Firefox
Linux Debian 13.4 (Trixie) Xfce w/Pale Moon, Waterfox, Firefox
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 03:14

Night Wing wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 02:59
 After clicking on your link the page renders properly for me. My monitor is 27" with 1920x1080.

At this time, I'm using 64 bit linux Pale Moon 28.14.2
Same
running in 64 bit linux Mint 20 (Ulyana) Xfce.
Mint 18.3, Cinnamon
I have the uBlock Origin extension enabled for the site.
Ah, perhaps my HOSTS file is blocking some googleanalytics or aws 'helpers'. Unrelated: I'll try Safe Mode. I'll be back...
I'm also using Firefox Compatibility mode.
Same.
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 03:38

Night Wing wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 02:59
 After clicking on your link the page renders properly for me. My monitor is 27" with 1920x1080.

At this time, I'm using 64 bit linux Pale Moon 28.14.2 running in 64 bit linux Mint 20 (Ulyana) Xfce. I have the uBlock Origin extension enabled for the site.

I'm also using Firefox Compatibility mode.
With a vanilla 'hosts' file and in Safe Mode, the rendering is still screwed.

I'm running in a VM, so my display is not 3840x2160, it's 3840x1986.

I'm baffled.
Top
User avatar
moonbat
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 5816
Joined: 2015-12-09, 15:45

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by moonbat » 2020-10-11, 04:03

If you're using a global UA override or have changed Tools->Preferences->Advanced->General->Compatibility away from Firefox compatibility, change it back.
Also unblock the following domains as highlighted in green if you're using eMatrix or any other adblocker -
screenshot-ematrix-smpte.png
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
"One hosts to look them up, one DNS to find them and in the darkness BIND them."

Image
KDE Neon on a Slimbook Excalibur (Ryzen 7 8845HS, 64 GB RAM)
AutoPageColor|PermissionsPlus|PMPlayer|Pure URL|RecordRewind|TextFX
Jabber: moonbat@hot-chili.net
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 04:59

moonbat wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 04:03
 If you're using a global UA override or have changed Tools->Preferences->Advanced->General->Compatibility away from Firefox compatibility, change it back.
Also unblock the following domains as highlighted in green if you're using eMatrix or any other adblocker -
screenshot-ematrix-smpte.png
The only ad blocker is the one that's built-in. I turned it off. It did not help.

Safe Mode doesn't help. I do run FF compatibility. I've never seen what you pictured.
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 05:13

Do you think this could have anything to do with this? I'm running PM as a portable app.

PM is running out of a virtual USB drive:
/media/mark/Palemoon Linux
The profile is:
/media/mark/Palemoon Linux/1oyhyp4u.default
Top
_yuyu_
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 265
Joined: 2015-03-02, 14:18

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by _yuyu_ » 2020-10-11, 05:27

For me the page also displays ugly on my current profile even with all addons disabled but looks OK on the clean test profile.
I'm on Windows 7, 1920x1080.
Pale Moon 64-bit on Win 7 x64
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 05:36

_yuyu_ wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 05:27
 For me the page also displays ugly on my current profile even with all addons disabled but looks OK on the clean test profile.
I'm on Windows 7, 1920x1080.
This ugly?
VirtualBox_Mint18_11_10_2020_01_30_20.png
Here's userContent.css

Code: Select all

:link{cursor:pointer !important;outline:green solid 0.1em !important;font-weight:bold !important;text-decoration:underline !important}
:visited{cursor:pointer !important;outline:red solid 0.1em !important;font-weight:bold !important;text-decoration:underline !important}
@viewport{zoom:60% !important}
Top
markfilipak

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by markfilipak » 2020-10-11, 05:47

I just removed the @viewport directive from userContent.css and relaunched PM.

No joy.
Top
User avatar
Moonchild
Project founder
Project founder
Posts: 39105
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: Sweden

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by Moonchild » 2020-10-11, 06:05

markfilipak wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 02:15
 Firefox renders this page, though it's obviously formatted for smart phones, not computer browsers.
Looks fine here, and it doesn't seem to be a mobile site, either?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Top
_yuyu_
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 265
Joined: 2015-03-02, 14:18

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by _yuyu_ » 2020-10-11, 07:02

markfilipak wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 05:36
This ugly?
Yes
Pale Moon 64-bit on Win 7 x64
Top
User avatar
moonbat
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 5816
Joined: 2015-12-09, 15:45

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by moonbat » 2020-10-11, 07:06

markfilipak wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 04:59
 The only ad blocker is the one that's built-in.
There isn't any such thing built-in.
"One hosts to look them up, one DNS to find them and in the darkness BIND them."

Image
KDE Neon on a Slimbook Excalibur (Ryzen 7 8845HS, 64 GB RAM)
AutoPageColor|PermissionsPlus|PMPlayer|Pure URL|RecordRewind|TextFX
Jabber: moonbat@hot-chili.net
Top
User avatar
Moonchild
Project founder
Project founder
Posts: 39105
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: Sweden

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by Moonchild » 2020-10-11, 07:07

Also abusing hosts, yuyu?
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Top
_yuyu_
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 265
Joined: 2015-03-02, 14:18

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by _yuyu_ » 2020-10-11, 07:21

Moonchild wrote: ↑
2020-10-11, 07:07
 Also abusing hosts, yuyu?
No. I don't use HOSTS for blocking. And as I said, it looks fine on the clean profile.
Pale Moon 64-bit on Win 7 x64
Top
User avatar
Moonchild
Project founder
Project founder
Posts: 39105
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: Sweden

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by Moonchild » 2020-10-11, 08:02

OK, so, with hosts, it displays bad on current and clean profiles
Without hosts, is displays bad only on a loaded profile.

Likely cause: blocking of some sort that is common between the hosts file in use and whatever blocker is present in yuyu's current profile.

Check your various blocklist subscriptions and filters?

By the way, depending on how hosts is set up, you'll have to at least restart your system after disabling filtering in it and likely also clear your browser cache.
"There is no point in arguing with an idiot, because then you're both idiots." - Anonymous
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Top
_yuyu_
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 265
Joined: 2015-03-02, 14:18

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by _yuyu_ » 2020-10-11, 09:05

Thanks, Moonchild. It seems that on my current profile network/proxy settings are somehow reconfigured. I will look into this later.
Pale Moon 64-bit on Win 7 x64
Top
Simon P

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by Simon P » 2020-10-11, 10:56

This displayed badly for me in usual profile & in safe mode, BUT correctly in fresh profile. I tracked the problem down to having a minimum font size set: changing that from '12' to 'None' fixed the display of this page.
Top
User avatar
biopsin
Fanatic
Fanatic
Posts: 138
Joined: 2016-02-07, 17:15

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by biopsin » 2020-10-11, 11:14

Indeed setting minimum font to "none" straightens out that broken site.. here too
voidlinux_x64 glibc-2.41 / compiled latest Palemoon (gcc-14.2.1) / GTK3

And where there is no intelligence there is no stupidity.
Top
_yuyu_
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 265
Joined: 2015-03-02, 14:18

Re: https://www.smpte.org/

Post by _yuyu_ » 2020-10-11, 12:17

Great. This font trick helped.
Pale Moon 64-bit on Win 7 x64
Top

Return to “Web Compatibility Support”