Search missing in rottentomatoes.com

[aspertyx]

Using PM 29.0.0a5, the search field is missing in the large red block on https://www.rottentomatoes.com/. Still the same issue starting PM in safe mode. PM 28.12.0 has the same problem.

[RealityRipple]

Maybe because it's using Custom Elements and a totally proprietary tag called "search-algolia" instead of a normal input.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

It is because of lack of CustomElements as well as a Security Error AND it has mixed content.

What a rotten website.

[Moonchild]

I swear, so many websites that at least had decent HTML (regardless of content) these days are just total crap.

[moonbat]

Why bother coding something simple and self hosted when you can load 50 different scripts, frameworks and analytics/metrics/tracking crap from as many domains and CDNs
The amount of 3rd party crap I see on eMatrix or uBlock Origin's logs for any site these days is insane.

[TheRobin]

Looks like rotten tomatoes has full blocked Pale Moon and probably a lot of other browsers now. Anyone know how to access the site without having to block scripts?

[Moonraker]

Maybe that site should be treated like it's namesake and turfed into the trashcan...just an idea.

[Baloo]

Yep...not functioning at all now. If anyone finds out about a functioning user agent, let me know. I was unsuccessful in my attempts.

[coffeebreak]

If anyone finds out about a functioning user agent

There probably isn't one.
It's about CustomElements (they seem to actually be detecting the browser's features). -

The redirect url is clearly meant to give a hint:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/unsupported-browser?err=custom-elements,shadow-dom

Code: Select all

Error: TypeError: window.customElements is undefined
Source File: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/assets/pizza-pie/javascripts/bundles/roma/default.c343cb7c78f.js
Line: 1

If any UA override were to work, I'm guessing it would be a string for an older browser for which they provide a fallback, but I tried a few (IE 11, older Firefox) with no success.

[Moonchild]

If they hard require Google WebComponents from now on then no amount of trying to work around it in any UXP browser will work. They likely do not provide a fallback because "everyone uses Blink anyway". Potentially the shape of things to come.

[coffeebreak]

Potentially the shape of things to come.

Not looking forward to that. :\


There's a kinda sorta workaround for Rotten Tomatoes, if you just want to read.
(Alot of functionality is probably lost - I'm not familiar with the site to know what/how much.)

The site stores its feature-detection information in local storage:

RT-storage-featuredetection.png

If you bar them from setting cookies (or in the alternative turn off local storage), the front page, or some version of it, does load. Any of their local storage present, of course needs to be deleted first.

[cannonmc]

It's not just Pale Moon that has been blocked. I tried Waterfox (64-bit) latest and that is blocked.

But curiously it's not the whole site.

I followed this link https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/how-buried-made-its-single-location-the-most-terrifying-ever/?cmp=TWRT_Edit_Anniversary_Buried from RT's twitter page and it came up. But trying to get from that to the main site I got the 'use FF or Chrome', neither of which I like.

Thankfully I rarely wanted to use RT anyway. But why do they do that?

[adesh]

Because of incompetency and pure evilness.

[Drugwash]

There's a kinda sorta workaround for Rotten Tomatoes, if you just want to read. [...] If you bar them from setting cookies (or in the alternative turn off local storage), the front page, or some version of it, does load. Any of their local storage present, of course needs to be deleted first.

Indeed this appears to work. Personally I use QuickJava add-on's buttons to quickly enable/disable various elements.

For searching there's another trick I use. I installed the Search Engine Creator add-on and created a custom search string on DuckDuckGo:
Engine name*: DDG on RT <= this will appear as hint in browser's search box so you can name it freely
Search URL*: https://duckduckgo.com/?q={searchTerms}+site:rottentomatoes.com
Icon URL: https://duckduckgo.com/favicon.ico

Of course, one could use any other search engine that provides the custom 'search in site' feature.

Interestingly, the Falkon browser under Linux Mint 19.2 seems to work correctly on RT even with cookies allowed.

If anyone knows other sites similar to RT that can hold a candle to IMDb please let me know through private messages (to avoid hijacking/cluttering this thread).

[Moonchild]

Interestingly, the Falkon browser under Linux Mint 19.2 seems to work correctly on RT

Falkon uses the Chromium engine, so not really surprising there.

[Drugwash]

Falkon uses the Chromium engine

Ah, didn't know that - just installed it recently for a single job: managing mobile broadband modem connection.

I also share your fears regarding what's to come, and not only from the Internet/computing side. Apparently the trend is 'no choice whatsoever'. Let us not acquiesce to that.
Thank you for your continuous work and dedication!

[moonbat]

There are only 3 browser engines in existence - Blink/Chromium, which every popular browser uses, Firefox/Gecko which is copycatting Blik as much as possible, and then us, aka Goanna.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Off-topic:
Not very interesting either.

[Andrew Herbert]

There are only 3 browser engines in existence - Blink/Chromium, which every popular browser uses, Firefox/Gecko which is copycatting Blik as much as possible, and then us, aka Goanna.

Or WebKit, since Blink is already far diverged from WebCore, and V8 was made from the scratch.

[cannonmc]

I've just tried Microsoft Edge (spit) which, note, is the default browser for Windows10 (which I rarely use) and that was rejected too.

Are those people stupid?

I did wonder if anyone had manged to get through to RT to see why they are shooting themselves in the foot.