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Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by wmperkins » 2025-07-12, 18:50

Please always mention the name/domain of the website in question in your topic title.
https://git.devuan.org

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When I try to access this site: https://git.devuan.org/LeePen/xlibre or just https://git.devuan.org for the first time, I receive a webpage that says it is checking that I am not a bot. It has a gas gauge image that is supposed to show the progress of the verification process. The browser crashes a few seconds after displaying this page. The gas image shows as two vertical lines. The webpage works correctly on Firefox and Web browser.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-12, 19:32

Unable to reproduce; I had no issue reaching and displaying the site. The site uses Gitea which we use for our own repo needs as well and works without crashes.
Also, the bot checking system on that site is anubis which is known to work flawlessly in Pale Moon as well, so if a crash occurs in that case, it's likely because of something outside of the browser.

Please try to provide details about the crash.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Gemmaugr » 2025-07-12, 19:55

Works for me. PM 33.8.0, 64-bit, Win 10.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Night Wing » 2025-07-12, 21:55

Works for me as well without any problems.

At this time on this SSD, I am using 64 bit linux Pale Moon 33.8.0 (GTK2) running in 64 bit MX Linux 23.6 (Libretto) Xfce. I do have uBlock Origin 1.16.6.0 enabled for the site as well.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by UCyborg » 2025-07-13, 01:09

What a dystopia...more and more websites running a miner on your computer (while calling it anything but). Badware used to hide, now it's in plain sight, abusing hardware resources.

It ran for over 7 min while almost running computer out of RAM (6 GB). So I guess it's not unexpected to crash on older machines. I don't see this going through on 32-bit browser.

If this goes on, the only sane reaction would be mass exodus from the internet.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by wmperkins » 2025-07-13, 04:01

Okay. I will try using the debugging "tools" and see what may happen. However, I was able to make it work if I only had one other tab open in the task bar besides the one for git.devuan.org. Having more that one other open tab causes the browser to crash. I had twelve other open tabs at the time when I discovered this problem. I could post two screenshots of the problem: one from palemoon and one from firefox. The only difference between them is the gas gauge showing the progress of the bot checking process. Palemoon shows only something that look like two brackets [] while firefox shows the gas gauge filling in as the process checks to see if you might be be a bot!

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by adoxa » 2025-07-13, 06:28

wmperkins wrote:
2025-07-13, 04:01
Palemoon shows only something that look like two brackets [] while firefox shows the gas gauge filling in as the process checks to see if you might be be a bot!
That's due to the currently unsupported min CSS function (a workaround is simple enough, but hardly worth it).

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-13, 10:06

UCyborg wrote:
2025-07-13, 01:09
What a dystopia...more and more websites running a miner on your computer (while calling it anything but).
https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/design/why-proof-of-work

Just because it uses a hashing function to find a specific hashed result doesn't mean it's a miner or that the proof of work is doing anything other than using computing time.
Anubis is also clear this is intended to be a "good enough" challenge for the time being but they are working on something better.
UCyborg wrote:
2025-07-13, 01:09
in plain sight, abusing hardware resources
The hardware resource "wasting" is by design! If scraper bots have to pass this challenge they are effectively not able to rapid-fire scraping requests. They resources are being wasted on this instead of scraping sites.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by UCyborg » 2025-07-13, 12:08

Doesn't change the fact that it was effectively DOSing my computer. Waiting 7 minutes and exhausting all RAM in the process for the god damn website to open is normal to you?!

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-13, 13:00

UCyborg wrote:
2025-07-13, 12:08
Doesn't change the fact that it was effectively DOSing my computer. Waiting 7 minutes and exhausting all RAM in the process for the god damn website to open is normal to you?!
No, it's not normal, but it is also not something that is typical to see with this bot protection measure. It uses some CPU power but that's it. If your ram skyrockets and your computer locks up then something else is going on there.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Lycanthrope_végétarien » 2025-07-13, 13:20

nothing unusual to report.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by UCyborg » 2025-07-13, 14:15

Not as bad on Edge, but still a long time...

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by vannilla » 2025-07-13, 14:17

It took me a long time to be verified for some reason, around 20 seconds or so, when other Anubis installations (including Pale Moon's own infrastructure!) verify me in something like 2 seconds at most. I'm apt to think this long verification process somehow triggered something in OP's system outside the browser, but it's just a theory based on a single unexpected experience.

Also, I've read Anubis's source code and I can assure that as of the time of this writing, it doesn't "mine" anything and simply wastes computing resources. It's still dystopic because humans are forced to be this much wasteful simply to protect oneself from brain-damaged venture capitalists, but at the very least nobody running Anubis's code is doing funny business.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-13, 15:24

How long it takes depends on how anubis is configured, as well as the capabilities of your hardware. There's also a random element to it: if you are unlucky it can take a long time.
If it takes too long then you should ask the devuan admins to not configure it so aggressively.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by wmperkins » 2025-07-13, 17:46

Okay! Some additional information that I am able to supply, This show the browser's "Troubleshooting Information":
Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 33.8.0 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20250627034448
Update Channel: release
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/6.7 Firefox/128.0 PaleMoon/33.8.0
OS: Linux 6.1.0-33-amd64
CPU Capabilities: SSE2 AVX AVX2
Safe Mode: false

Extensions
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Name: Adblock Latitude
Version: 5.0.9
Enabled: true
ID: adblocklatitude@addons.palemoon.org

Name: CookieCuller
Version: 1.4.1-signed.1-signed
Enabled: true
ID: {99B98C2C-7274-45a3-A640-D9DF1A1C8460}

Name: N0HR Propfire
Version: 0.80.0.2-signed
Enabled: true
ID: {8E722C16-301F-43d7-A17D-3882AC67FAA5}

Name: Tab Mix Plus
Version: 0.5.8.4
Enabled: true
ID: {dc572301-7619-498c-a57d-39143191b318}

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GPU Accelerated Windows: 0/1 Basic (OMTC)
Asynchronous Pan/Zoom: none
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I did an strace with the browser which produced an output file of 239,576 lines and 19,091,441 bytes. It is mite large to post here but shows the actions of the browser before the Segmentation fault occurred. I shall post the last few lines of this file before the crash:
futex(0x7f0f06f41320, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
futex(0x7f0f06f41320, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7ef8812bf474, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7ee8e290eeb4, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f10301600, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f0ee650e7f0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103069c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f0d8c6e4c74, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f02836fb5f4, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7efe2fd750f0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0c580857b4, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
recvmsg(4, {msg_namelen=0}, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=27, events=POLLIN}, {fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=48, events=POLLIN}], 6, 0) = 1 ([{fd=28, revents=POLLIN}])
read(28, "\372", 1) = 1
futex(0x7efe2fd751f0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0ee948f9f4, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f016115ed34, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0ee94a23b0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f0d547bcbf0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f10308a40, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
futex(0x7f0f10308a40, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f01e0eef430, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0ee85ffa30, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f005bb10230, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0d547e9834, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f01e0eef530, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0ee85ffb30, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0ee948fc30, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103069c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f0f06f41270, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f01e0eef6b0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f0f103203c0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by UCyborg » 2025-07-14, 19:07

vannilla wrote:
2025-07-13, 14:17
It took me a long time to be verified for some reason, around 20 seconds or so, when other Anubis installations (including Pale Moon's own infrastructure!) verify me in something like 2 seconds at most. I'm apt to think this long verification process somehow triggered something in OP's system outside the browser, but it's just a theory based on a single unexpected experience.

Also, I've read Anubis's source code and I can assure that as of the time of this writing, it doesn't "mine" anything and simply wastes computing resources. It's still dystopic because humans are forced to be this much wasteful simply to protect oneself from brain-damaged venture capitalists, but at the very least nobody running Anubis's code is doing funny business.
Sure, while not technically a miner, more like a captcha for the browser to solve, it's still one of the many things that make modern internet user hostile.

My computer's 16 years old by now. While a new one would solve it faster, I haven't had a genuine need to buy a new one.

I do get to https://repo.palemoon.org/ in much more reasonable time, cca. 10 seconds or so.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-14, 20:38

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UCyborg wrote:
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Sure, while not technically a miner, more like a captcha for the browser to solve, it's still one of the many things that make modern internet user hostile.
Unfortunately it's necessary because the internet has become server-hostile. And as a server admin you have to choose between being more user-hostile by having turnstile/captcha solutions, or being forced to either not be accessible to everyone or spending a lot of money on oversized servers just to satisfy bot traffic that doesn't give you anything in return.
These things CAN be solved in and by the Internet, but it requires more regulation, and above all ISPs and cloud providers actually doing what they should, starting with more active egress monitoring and filtering. Unfortunately there's this attitude that that is a waste of resources because it doesn't actually protect their own resources.
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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by dbsoft » 2025-07-18, 03:15

I will say I was running on my main windows machine, a debug build without optimizations and ASan took so long that I had to abort it and run the check with an optimized build. I had it running for at least 10 minutes before I gave up on it. Now running without optimizations is unusual but it seems like this check should not take that long.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by q160765803 » 2025-07-18, 06:17

devuan's anubis just freeze my little poor 8GB RAM i5-7500 Win10 machine in my workplace.
I think it used up all my machine's memory and start swapping to my old slow HDD.

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Re: Palemoon crashes when accessing Devuan site

Post by Moonchild » 2025-07-18, 09:23

dbsoft wrote:
2025-07-18, 03:15
I will say I was running on my main windows machine, a debug build without optimizations and ASan took so long that I had to abort it and run the check with an optimized build. I had it running for at least 10 minutes before I gave up on it. Now running without optimizations is unusual but it seems like this check should not take that long.
No, it's actually normal. An unoptimized and debug-enable javascript engine is as slow as a sloth in a tarpit. It can't deal with proof-of-work hashing and should never be used to do anything but precise debugging on reduced testcases or you'll be growing grey hairs before the test is complete.
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