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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-15, 15:53

Dactyloidae website down due to a storm nearby.

Mirror of source code will be in the PM Gitea:

https://repo.palemoon.org/wuggy/Dactyloidae
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by q160765803 » 2026-04-16, 03:18

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-15, 15:53
Dactyloidae website down due to a storm nearby.

Mirror of source code will be in the PM Gitea:

https://repo.palemoon.org/wuggy/Dactyloidae
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-16, 04:39

q160765803 wrote:
2026-04-16, 03:18
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-15, 15:53
Dactyloidae website down due to a storm nearby.

Mirror of source code will be in the PM Gitea:

https://repo.palemoon.org/wuggy/Dactyloidae
Off-topic:
Somewhere near Saipan? Take care!
Off-topic:
No, I'm in the UK. Storm is over now, website should be back up.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-04-16, 15:16

I got to watch a friend of mine trying this browser on Windows 11 yesterday. It was pretty cool, he was able to add uBlock 1.70 for modern Firefox and it was definitely blocking ads on sites, although he couldn't interact with uBlock's settings.

This is a very intriguing browser to watch in action. Today I'll tell him to remove uBlock 1.70 and try to add the uBlock for Pale Moon and see if that also works.

I noticed that the browser was using more CPU than normal on the sites he visited, but since this is a work in progress that's no big surprise. The big surprise is that it actually works at all! We were watching a video with it, with clear sound, I was a bit amazed at this browser's capabilities.

UPDATE - it works! You can remove the modern Firefox uBlock add-on, at which point you see ads. And then add the Pale Moon version of uBlock, and it blocks ads. So you can really use both sets of add-ons. This has got a lot of potential.

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-16, 17:41

Finally starting work on a Linux port. That and 32 bit Windows will be available in prerelease 1 (nothing much changed except for platform choices)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-16, 17:43

andyprough wrote:
2026-04-16, 15:16
I got to watch a friend of mine trying this browser on Windows 11 yesterday. It was pretty cool, he was able to add uBlock 1.70 for modern Firefox and it was definitely blocking ads on sites, although he couldn't interact with uBlock's settings.

This is a very intriguing browser to watch in action. Today I'll tell him to remove uBlock 1.70 and try to add the uBlock for Pale Moon and see if that also works.

I noticed that the browser was using more CPU than normal on the sites he visited, but since this is a work in progress that's no big surprise. The big surprise is that it actually works at all! We were watching a video with it, with clear sound, I was a bit amazed at this browser's capabilities.

UPDATE - it works! You can remove the modern Firefox uBlock add-on, at which point you see ads. And then add the Pale Moon version of uBlock, and it blocks ads. So you can really use both sets of add-ons. This has got a lot of potential.
Surprised latest uBO works. Tried getting it working on my testing and it just didn't work, maybe I improved it, I don't know.
WIll be working on backporting patches from Waterfox Classic as promised too, aswell as working on the CPU usage problem in 13.2.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-04-16, 20:20

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-16, 17:43
Surprised latest uBO works. Tried getting it working on my testing and it just didn't work, maybe I improved it, I don't know.
WIll be working on backporting patches from Waterfox Classic as promised too, aswell as working on the CPU usage problem in 13.2.
Yes, the latest Firefox uBlock definitely seemed to work, as we saw ads disappear when installed and reappear when removed. As I said, we couldn't interact with uBlock's settings, not even in the Add-on page, but it appeared to be doing its basic job. The Pale Moon version of uBlock appeared to be working well in all respects.
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-16, 17:41
Finally starting work on a Linux port. That and 32 bit Windows will be available in prerelease 1 (nothing much changed except for platform choices)
A port that would work on GNU/Linux distros would be pretty cool. Looking forward to it.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-16, 20:24

andyprough wrote:
2026-04-16, 20:20
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-16, 17:43
Surprised latest uBO works. Tried getting it working on my testing and it just didn't work, maybe I improved it, I don't know.
WIll be working on backporting patches from Waterfox Classic as promised too, aswell as working on the CPU usage problem in 13.2.
Yes, the latest Firefox uBlock definitely seemed to work, as we saw ads disappear when installed and reappear when removed. As I said, we couldn't interact with uBlock's settings, not even in the Add-on page, but it appeared to be doing its basic job. The Pale Moon version of uBlock appeared to be working well in all respects.
That's to be expected, my WebExtensions thing hasn't been modified much (except for spoofing to Firefox 128 for WebExtensions, etc)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 00:05

Writing this from the (soon to be) Linux build of Dactyloidae 13.2. Was a pain to compile thanks to zlib but it's finally real.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 01:18

Dactyloidae version 13.2 prerelease 1 is out now! (for Linux and 32 bit WIndows only)
http://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae ... /13.2-pre1
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-04-17, 02:03

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-17, 01:18
Dactyloidae version 13.2 prerelease 1 is out now! (for Linux and 32 bit WIndows only)
http://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae ... /13.2-pre1
It works!
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 02:05

andyprough wrote:
2026-04-17, 02:03
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-17, 01:18
Dactyloidae version 13.2 prerelease 1 is out now! (for Linux and 32 bit WIndows only)
http://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae ... /13.2-pre1
It works!

2026-04-16_22-02.jpg
Yeah the theme is still a tad broken, will fix in prerelease 2 + some other stuff, this is still a proof of concept build
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Basilisk-Dev » 2026-04-17, 15:43

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-17, 00:05
Writing this from the (soon to be) Linux build of Dactyloidae 13.2. Was a pain to compile thanks to zlib but it's finally real.
Not sure what you mean by this. There is a version of zlib in our tree that works fine?

I'm curious to hear about your Basilisk build setup. Are you using the Oracle Linux 8 Docker Container setup that I use for Basilisk releases or something else?
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 16:06

Basilisk-Dev wrote:
2026-04-17, 15:43
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-17, 00:05
Writing this from the (soon to be) Linux build of Dactyloidae 13.2. Was a pain to compile thanks to zlib but it's finally real.
Not sure what you mean by this. There is a version of zlib in our tree that works fine?

I'm curious to hear about your Basilisk build setup. Are you using the Oracle Linux 8 Docker Container setup that I use for Basilisk releases or something else?
I’m using a VM of Oracle Linux 8, manually installed everything considering my OS X version is too old for Docker.

The zlib in my tree for some reason doesn’t like to compile on anything but Windows without modifications to how it handles SIMD.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Basilisk-Dev » 2026-04-17, 16:29

ownedbywuigi wrote:
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The zlib in my tree for some reason doesn’t like to compile on anything but Windows without modifications to how it handles SIMD.
If you are looking to improve zlib performance, rather than adding SIMD stuff to zlib it might be beneficial for you to investigate switching to zlib-ng in zlib-compat mode. I've been meaning to play around with this but haven't had time. Switching to zlib-ng will almost certainly be faster than any SIMD improvements you add yourself.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 17:42

Basilisk-Dev wrote:
2026-04-17, 16:29

If you are looking to improve zlib performance, rather than adding SIMD stuff to zlib it might be beneficial for you to investigate switching to zlib-ng in zlib-compat mode. I've been meaning to play around with this but haven't had time. Switching to zlib-ng will almost certainly be faster than any SIMD improvements you add yourself.
Never heard of zlib-ng until now. Will take a look, it seems like they only support Mac/Windows/Linux but I’m sure it won’t be hard to port to the BSDs
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-17, 23:00

Small grudges I have had on browsers in Linux that are now fixed in Dactyloidae:

Dactyloidae is now (I think) the ONLY XDG compliant browser! (basically the browser's configuration will be in /home/.config/ instead of it's own folder in /home/)
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by andyprough » 2026-04-18, 01:10

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-04-17, 23:00
Small grudges I have had on browsers in Linux that are now fixed in Dactyloidae:

Dactyloidae is now (I think) the ONLY XDG compliant browser! (basically the browser's configuration will be in /home/.config/ instead of it's own folder in /home/)
No, looks like at least Brave puts its config stuff under ~/.config/BraveSoftware/