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Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-17, 09:52

I was unhappy with the design of Basilisk and Pale Moon, so I decided to make a fork of my own that addresses some of the design issues I have with both of them.

Screenshot of the homepage:

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This fork is also there to help me familiarize myself with UXP development, and combat some web compatibility issues
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-17, 10:55

I've archived the GitHub, just waiting for my Gitea instance to restart
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Basilisk-Dev » 2026-03-17, 11:34

So you forked a fork of a fork to change the theme? That's an interesting approach. I'd have just made a theme that made it look how I wanted if I wanted the GUI to appear different, but more power to you.

Out of curiosity, what are the design elements you did not like?

Good luck with your project!

I only have one request, will you please ensure that your application doesn't compile with the filename "basilisk.exe" if you haven't already? I've had people using the Windows XP fork of Basilisk called Serpent come here for support in the past. We'd like to avoid that with your users too.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-17, 12:07

Basilisk-Dev wrote:
2026-03-17, 11:34
will you please ensure that your application doesn't compile with the filename "basilisk.exe" if you haven't already? I've had people using the Windows XP fork of Basilisk called Serpent come here for support in the past. We'd like to avoid that with your users too.
The application compiles with the filename "dactyloidae.exe" since version 52.10.0 (styled as 10.0), I have removed most branding associated with basilisk to avoid confusion. Still got a couple of areas that still identify itself as Serpent/Basilisk that i'd like to work on.
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So you forked a fork of a fork to change the theme? That's an interesting approach. I'd have just made a theme that made it look how I wanted if I wanted the GUI to appear different, but more power to you.

Out of curiosity, what are the design elements you did not like?
I didn't like the design of FF52 era Firefox, mainly the styling of the tab bar.

I went with forking Hydra instead of forking from upstream Basilisk because I could not figure out mozillabuild at the time, and by the time I found out the process was relatively the same no matter what fork (except for initializing platform) I was like 20 or so commits in and didn't feel like rebasing lol
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by THX-1139 » 2026-03-17, 14:07

When I opened PM to this page Bitdefender AVP gave me this warning:Feature:
Online Threat Prevention

"The page https://git.dactyloidae.xyz/ has been detected with suspicious activity. It is not recommended to continue browsing this website.
Accessed by: palemoon.exe"
Could this just be a False positive? or?
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-03-17, 15:08

THX-1139 wrote:
2026-03-17, 14:07
When I opened PM to this page Bitdefender AVP gave me this warning:Feature:
Online Threat Prevention

"The page https://git.dactyloidae.xyz/ has been detected with suspicious activity. It is not recommended to continue browsing this website.
Accessed by: palemoon.exe"
Could this just be a False positive? or?
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-17, 19:12

THX-1139 wrote:
2026-03-17, 14:07
When I opened PM to this page Bitdefender AVP gave me this warning:Feature:
Online Threat Prevention

"The page https://git.dactyloidae.xyz/ has been detected with suspicious activity. It is not recommended to continue browsing this website.
Accessed by: palemoon.exe"
Could this just be a False positive? or?
False positive, I just made the domain like a week ago so it probably has not been scanned
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by THX-1139 » 2026-03-17, 19:53

Okay, Thanks for the reply, and confirming was a False positive, Bitdefender is a bit overzealous sometimes, but I prefer that over the opposite.
And well, I also owe BD bigly: Back in 2007-8, I got a very nasty virus on my WinXP called "Downadup",It was truly a horrible virus, but lucky for me I had a dual boot system: WINXP and Win2k, I boot into 2K and no problems, search the internet and find Bitdefender had the fix for Downadup...ezpz
So yeah, I still use their product.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-18, 06:41

Unrelated to this browser but I just thought UXP was unoptimised in heavy JavaScript until I got a better GPU (GTX 970 now!), GPU acceleration really makes a big difference holy shit
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-20, 09:43

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Since my old Gitea instance died, heres a new demo image
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-20, 09:46

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-03-17, 10:55
I've archived the GitHub, just waiting for my Gitea instance to restart
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-21, 18:23

Experimental AVX2 only build, tell me via replying to this post or direct messaging me if you encounter any issues that wouldn't happen on 12.1

https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloida ... .12.2-pre1

EDIT: Already encountered one lol
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/issues/4
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-27, 11:12

scrapping 12.2 in favor of 13.0, had too many bugs in 12.2's codebase.

13.0 brings a shit ton of JS optimisations, so wait for pre1, it'll be worth the wait :D
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by UCyborg » 2026-03-27, 14:53

Name really doesn't go off the tongue. xD

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-27, 17:20

UCyborg wrote:
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Name really doesn't go off the tongue. xD
Couldn't think of a better name.
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-27, 17:21

13.0-pre1 greatly improving JS heavy site performance
YT Polymer now loads 3x faster compared to 12.1
TradingView used to hang both Pale Moon and Dactyloidae 12.1, now it runs almost flawlessly

Reduced most of those "freeze moments" too unless loading a page for the first time

VMware 16+ and Parallels Desktop 15+ gets greatly improved video decoding performance too
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by sidology » 2026-03-27, 17:38

ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-03-27, 17:21
13.0-pre1 greatly improving JS heavy site performance
YT Polymer now loads 3x faster compared to 12.1
TradingView used to hang both Pale Moon and Dactyloidae 12.1, now it runs almost flawlessly
Wait, how?
Pale Moon team is struggling with improving performance for years and you do it in days?

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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by Enobarbous » 2026-03-27, 18:03

Hmm. I'm looking at the branch https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloida ... ranch/13.0 and I think it would be nice if one of the core UXP developers also looked into how useful this would be.
I can't comment on optimizations, but lazy loading looks pretty good. Although, I certainly think it's better to move this behavior beyond pref...
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Re: Dactyloidae Browser (Basilisk fork)

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-03-27, 19:13

sidology wrote:
2026-03-27, 17:38
ownedbywuigi wrote:
2026-03-27, 17:21
13.0-pre1 greatly improving JS heavy site performance
YT Polymer now loads 3x faster compared to 12.1
TradingView used to hang both Pale Moon and Dactyloidae 12.1, now it runs almost flawlessly
Wait, how?
Pale Moon team is struggling with improving performance for years and you do it in days?
I rewrote the memory management for JavaScript using SSE2. I don't know if I can push this to upstream though considering Pale Moon is AVX only

Keep in mind that I am using the AVX2 build of Pale Moon and Dactyloidae 13.0pre1 smokes it in loading YT despite being SSE2 only
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