SeaMonkey fork

[Moonchild]

Off-topic:

defunct Borealis code? Is that even possible? I thought Tobin had more restrictive trademarks on his projects

You can't trademark code as it's not a trade mark (= trade name/identifier).
Aside from that, the code base is MPL licensed, so borrowing/using defunct Borealis code under that license is always OK, even if it's taken from a piece of software that is otherwise trademarked (in branding).

[wicknix]

Off-topic:
Trademark of what? His branding sure. I used my own, and i even changed the default theme from what he used. The rest is just SeaMonkey with some modifications.

[frostknight]

Off-topic:

Trademark of what? His branding sure. I used my own, and i even changed the default theme from what he used. The rest is just SeaMonkey with some modifications.

Oh, alright, shows how much I know.
Just curious.

Actually would be interesting to be able to turn off different parts of it at will. Aka, run only the browser, etc...
well, do you plan to make something similar? Aka, having the browser part only?

You can't trademark code as it's not a trade mark (= trade name/identifier).

I wasn't aware that code couldn't be trademarked. I thought the changes he made could be trademarked, etc... his BINOC license was kind of unclear... and I couldn't figure it out.

[suzyne]

Actually would be interesting to be able to turn off different parts of it at will. Aka, run only the browser, etc... well, do you plan to make something similar? Aka, having the browser part only?

Would it really be the SeaMonkey experience if it wasn't an always on integrated suite of internet tools?

[frostknight]

Actually would be interesting to be able to turn off different parts of it at will. Aka, run only the browser, etc... well, do you plan to make something similar? Aka, having the browser part only?

Would it really be the SeaMonkey experience if it wasn't an always on integrated suite of internet tools?

Fair point, so maybe just make the tools toggleable? As in you can run the browser parts by themselves, or the email part.

Beyond just thinking it would be somewhat faster, which people have told me otherwise, I think it would at bare minimum look way less modern.

The modern designs of computers have been getting uglier for me. Win vista was the first time I thought, yuck in appearance.

I tend to think now that 95 was the last one that didn't look like crap.

(screw eye candy!)

That's just me though.

[moonbat]

Seamonkey already had the option to choose what components to initialize on startup, so you could choose not to start the mail component if you didn't want it.

[jangdonggun1234]

I plan to publish an alpha sometime this month

Excuse my versioning pedantry, but you mean a beta, right?

I still haven't decided on a name for the application yet (suggestions welcome!). I'd like to have artwork and branding done before a beta version.

Earthmonkey I guess

[Wrolf]

If it's going to be Pale Moon compatible, I suggest naming it Male 'Poon.

[jobbautista9]

Bad idea https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poon

[Moonchild]

If it's going to be Pale Moon compatible, I suggest naming it Male 'Poon.

Trolls have already tried to pull that one because it's such a derogatory term

[Wrolf]

Oops. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Shows you just how innocent I am. I was thinking along "male harpoon"...

[Moonchild]

Oops. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Shows you just how innocent I am. I was thinking along "male harpoon"...

I'm sure they'd make that into something sexist as well XD

[Night Wing]

I do quite a bit of saltwater fishing and seamonkey is the term for a brine shrimp, I will add this name to the list of suggestions.

How about "Barracuda"?

[mrnhmath]

I'm gonna be taking opportunity of the fact that current SeaMonkey has long diverged from esr-52 code to make breaking changes like removing the Data Manager in favor of the old individual managers (while adding new ones) and removing support for DevTools, Lightning and Sync.

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[therube]

I'm not clear.
Is that supposed to be a picture of SeaMonkey?
If so, how to you, where do you find dialogs like that (or is it a Mac thing)?
(It also does not look like Borealis, though Borealis does have separate dialog windows like that.)
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(SeaMonkey) Windows:

SeaMonkey Data Manager.png

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"For SeaMonkey 2.53.17, the following extensions are included.

ChatZilla
DOM Inspector
Lightning"

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/relea ... ey2.53.17/
(Lightning [I don't use, nor Mail] is an extension, I believe.)

As far as opening speed, I don't believe having Mail included (in the "Suite") or not makes any (appreciable, discernible) difference.
And you can choose to open to browser or Mail.

[mrnhmath]

I'm not clear.
Is that supposed to be a picture of SeaMonkey?

No, this is a picture of the upcoming fork.

(It also does not look like Borealis, though Borealis does have separate dialog windows like that.)

I'm doing a full suite instead of a standalone browser, the source comes from the tip of the comm-esr52 repo.

"For SeaMonkey 2.53.17, the following extensions are included.

ChatZilla
DOM Inspector
Lightning"

The suite will include only CZ and DOMi, since I'm on the opinion that Lightning should be either upstreamed to the platform or made a self-contained extension again.

As far as opening speed, I don't believe having Mail included (in the "Suite") or not makes any (appreciable, discernible) difference.
And you can choose to open to browser or Mail.

You'd be right, I've made some experiments in the past and there should be no discernible difference when the mail code is omitted.

[Basilisk-Dev]

I maintained a personal fork of SeaMonkey 2.49.5 a few years ago that was built on top of UXP. I look forward to hopefully seeing your project move forward. I was a Netscape, then Mozilla Suite, then SeaMonkey user for several years.

Off-topic:

If it's going to be Pale Moon compatible, I suggest naming it Male 'Poon.

I strongly suggest not naming it Male Poon not only the reasons regarding the definition of poon that have already been mentioned, but also because at some point in the past someone made a fork of Pale Moon called Male Poon with a vulgar logo.

[mrnhmath]

I maintained a personal fork of SeaMonkey 2.49.5 a few years ago that was built on top of UXP. I look forward to hopefully seeing your project move forward. I was a Netscape, then Mozilla Suite, then SeaMonkey user for several years.

I've also maintained a personal fork, but as time passed and nobody came forward with a clear plan, I decided to take on this project.

NetFusion Suite 1.0.0a1 coming next week.

[Moonchild]

NetFusion Suite

Good name

[wicknix]

Off-topic:

well, do you plan to make something similar? Aka, having the browser part only?

As stated previously, it's the browser component only. I didn't want the suite. It's been available for a few months now for MacOS 10.7-12.6 (32-bit and 64-bit), x86_64 Linux, and PowerPC (32-bit) Linux. I don't know if it's ok to link to it here, so if you're interested in it, just do a web search on my username and look for my github, or search the name of the browser from the previous screenshot i attached.