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The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-06, 00:49
by New Tobin Paradigm
SO.. In the past I have gone a little crazy about NOT using the forum for talking about Interlink (or other stuff I have created) for reasons that are totally reasons that exist. HOWEVER, I have decided that it would be a good idea to put all that aside and abandon that mentality and decision.

Interlink Discussion on the Pale Moon Forums is now free and open.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-06, 07:48
by Giraffe
Thank you sir!
Useful for dimwits like me - nice and simple.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-14, 09:27
by fatboy
Awesome! Thanks Tobin. I use you mail client every day. It's amazing!

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-26, 17:42
by Bilbo47
Subject: Yahoo Login fails on some folders

Problem: Reading the main folders (Inbox, Draft, Sent) is okay. But other folders (Archive, Bulk Mail, Trash, and custom folders) give an error message "Login failed, Retry / Enter New Password / Cancel".
Solution: use Yahoo's "Manage App Passwords" feature.

1. Log in to the Yahoo mail account with a browser.

2. For the latest layout, click your profile / avatar / name then click "Account Info".
2. For the previous layout, select "Account Info" in the dropdown and click [Go].

3. Navigate to "Account Security" (this might require logging in again). Scroll to the bottom and click on "Manage app passwords".

4. Select an app (or "Other" and enter a custom name you will remember). Click "Generate". Copy+paste the 16-character password to your password vault.

5. Back in Interlink, try to read the other folders again. Enter the new password and it is supposed to work.

Did not see another place on the forum for this.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-30, 17:20
by back2themoon
Glad you changed your mind. I've been having a minor issue lately. *If* related to Interlink, should be no older than 1-2 versions, don't know what might be causing it.

I use Interlink in a maximized window and minimize it when not using it. Lately, when a "new mail" notification arrives (the bottom-left ones) and I click on it, Interlink will not appear in the previous maximized window, but a smaller one. So, it seems to not always remember the previous state - or perhaps something else is going on.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-30, 21:09
by Moonchild
That is expected. "Maximized" is one of three states a window can be, the other two are "minimized" and "normal". If you give the "restore" command to a minimized application, it will restore to a normal state, not a maximized state.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-30, 21:32
by yami_
Here is a quote from MSDN WinAPI reference that confirms what Moonchild wrote:
Microsoft wrote:SW_RESTORE - Activates and displays the window. If the window is minimized or maximized, the system restores it to its original size and position. An application should specify this flag when restoring a minimized window.
And if I were to guess this is the function that restores (and activates) the window: /binoc-central/source/mailnews/base/src/nsMessengerWinIntegration.cpp#116.
Off-topic:
There is also fourth "hidden" state.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-06-30, 22:16
by back2themoon
Thanks for the replies. What Moonchild said makes sense of course, although I think this is a recent change in behaviour. I could be wrong.

Yami_ that quote confused me. What is the "original size"? The previous state one, or some fixed size?

edit: There has been a recent DPI/layout change in Interlink, I wonder if it might be related ("Version 7094 - Reset layout.css.devPixelsPerPx to follow platform default"). Probably irrelevant.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-01, 08:58
by yami_
In this case "original size and position" means size and position before maximization/minimization.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-02, 10:38
by back2themoon
Ok, but I never set it to that position/size. It only ever takes that size, when I click on the notification prompt (and it doesn't always resize like that - some times it does open maximized).

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-02, 19:37
by Octopuss
This is a great change. Now I don't have to spam Github issues section when I just need to ask about something.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-02, 20:26
by yami_
back2themoon wrote:
2019-07-02, 10:38
Ok, but I never set it to that position/size.
Every window must have a default position and size (arguments x, y, nWidth and nHeight of CreateWindow and CreateWindowEx procedures). Also remember that Interlink will only start in the maximized mode if it was previously closed while it was maximized.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-02, 21:37
by Bilbo47
Interlink in a maximized window and minimize it when not using it. [When restoring / un-minimizing], Interlink will not appear in the previous maximized window, but a smaller [normal] one. So, it seems to not always remember the previous state
Apps have to put in special code to get the correct behavior, because the Windows way is deficient. Maybe with that handy cross-reference above, some/one of us fix it - if necessary.
  1. Put together a test program to prove the logic with how Windows works
  2. Translate it to fit in IL's mozilla-style conventions
  3. Submit a pull request to get the change into the source code and into a future release

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-03, 01:16
by New Tobin Paradigm
I don't see a problem here.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 04:51
by Isengrim
Google is shutting off OAuth access to Gmail and Drive for all but an "approved" list of 3rd party clients.

Will this affect Interlink's ability to interact with Gmail? I think you can still get to Gmail with other methods besides OAuth, but is there a drawback to doing so?

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 04:54
by New Tobin Paradigm
Depends if Thunderbird is cut off.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 04:55
by Isengrim
Guess we'll have to wait and see, then. Thanks.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 04:58
by New Tobin Paradigm
If it is then users can switch to popmail mode.. If that goes away then that is it.

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 13:06
by Moonchild
So Google insisted on their OAuth method for authentication, making it a PITA with other access (marketed as "less secure" while it isn't). And now they are walling that in to determine which clients you can use with OAuth.

I have a suggestion: stop using GMail. I myself am migrating off of the account I have with them because of exactly this kind of manipulative behavior. The Google account will henceforth only be for things that are unimportant like Android, required service logins, and to satisfy their captcha

Re: The Official Interlink Mail & News Discussion Thread

Posted: 2019-07-04, 14:31
by New Tobin Paradigm
You can't ask users not to use something no matter how reasonable.. If that was true then a lot of people wouldn't still be using ublock or noscript.

My only hope is that Thunderbird doesn't get blocked. Failing that, that popmail doesn't get shutdown as well.