GitHub will be folded into Microsoft proper as CEO steps down

[Moonchild]

So, who didn't see this coming when Microsoft purchased it a while back?

So, I guess we can expect more "AI" integration, erosion of coding knowledge/best practices as a result, and tighter integration with Microsoft's ecosystem/Visual Studio, and above all gaining more influence over Open Source. After all, they need to make their ROI on a $7.5 billion acquisition somehow.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08 ... teps-down/

[frostknight]

So, who didn't see this coming when Microsoft purchased it a while back?

So, I guess we can expect more "AI" integration, erosion of coding knowledge/best practices as a result, and tighter integration with Microsoft's ecosystem/Visual Studio, and above all gaining more influence over Open Source. After all, they need to make their ROI on a $7.5 billion acquisition somehow.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08 ... teps-down/

Makes a lot of sense. Microsoft doesn't care about best practices, they haven't for a long time if ever.

[athenian200]

I definitely am not surprised by this, Microsoft wouldn't have acquired GitHub without a plan. And in similar news, Skype has now been folded into Teams, I had to get everyone I know that still uses it onto the new platform, since not all of them use Discord and Teams is still an easier upgrade path than Discord for those who only knew Skype. One of the many things I've been dealing with during my long hiatus.

I am glad that you have the self-hosted Gitea instance for this community, I'm sure it costs more to run, but it insulates us from a lot of the headaches of random semi-annual changes to interface and policies that would come with a larger free provider like GitHub.

[SlySven]

Just to alert everyone - Github has become unusable with Palemoon within the last week, for a Pull-Request on a FOSS project's repo for which I do have "write-access" the workflow status and other things at the bottom are now not shown - instead you get just a spinning throbber - but nothing ever appears):

Screenshot 2025-09-17 193644.png

for comparison, M$'s Edge browser does show the details (including the "Ready for review" button to take the PR out of "Draft" mode - which I will need once I resolve the merge conflicts which I had no idea were there, because, of course, all that detail was not shown:

Screenshot 2025-09-17 194018.png

I did try with a "bare" profile, and also tried it after adding Marktok's Palefill but no obvious difference in the end-result. I did take a screen shot of the "web-console" but I cannot recall which profile that was on:

Screenshot_20250916_233646.png

If anyone can give a hint as to what has been fubared by GitHub this time - and whether it can be "solved" for PaleMoon that would be good to know...

[moonbat]

after adding Marktok's Palefill

Palefill is obsolete. Don't use it. Pale Moon has long since implemented the features that it acted as a compatibility layer for, and using it now will only cause further problems. Use a separate unmodified fresh profile for testing all broken sites, to rule out problems with your settings or addons. (In which case it could be your hardware/OS, or the website in question as is the case now, or with Pale Moon itself not having implemented some bleeding edge feature the site insists on using)

[Moonchild]

Github has become unusable with Palemoon within the last week

Here's a quote from GitHub support from a few years ago when there were web compatibility issues with GitHub (At the time because of Shadow DOM), and PRs could not be merged at that time:

While we hope this context might assist in resolving these specific challenges, it would be disingenuous of us not to recognise that there is clearly a difference of opinion where our use of custom elements is concerned. GitHub considers this open specification part of a diverse and healthy set of modern web standards. As these standards continue to be adopted and supported by web developers and browser maintainers (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Edge), we will continue to make use of them. For browsers that opt not to support these specifications, further degradation is a likelihood. It's not a goal of ours, by any means, but it is a likelihood.

Our different feature set was (and is) marked by GitHub as "a choice not to support a diverse and healthy set of modern web standards"; which currently means "not matching Chrome/Edge's feature set". After that remark, no further substantial dialogue occurred other than "we'll note it to our engineering team but unlikely anything will be done" kind of responses.
You can make of that what you will (and it's been the main reason to move off of GitHub as our development workflow on GitHub could be killed at any point in time with no warning or recourse).

[SlySven]

It seems that the particular problem I was having with GH has been resolved with the update to 33.9.0 - and it turned out that it was only one specific PR that was breaking for me - so fingers, legs (and everything else I can think of) crossed that it has been sorted...

[frostknight]

Palefill is obsolete.

I didn't see an announcement about this, but that being said, I thought this was public knowledge.

[moonbat]

Off-topic:

I thought this was public knowledge.

Probably only for us forum regulars. I've often seen it listed as installed when some people post their troubleshooting info.They must've installed it when it was released and never checked back later when Pale Moon had ended up implementing whatever features it provided

[frostknight]

Probably only for us forum regulars.

Off-topic:
Righto. This reminds me of sometimes why I needed in the past to stay ahead in current events on the DIY distro Hyperbola. I am sure archlinux is the same way, etc...