Why, web-devs, why?

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Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by Gemmaugr » 2025-02-13, 07:45

What's this kind of thing called?

When you go to a site with an URL, and then click on a menu link within it, you get a new page, but no new URL?

Example site: https://searx.space/ (and then click Engines, and you only get a # added to it. Using that "new" URL in a new tab takes you back to the main page).

I see this more and more sadly, and it drives me mad sad. I can't link directly to anything when I want to share it with anyone anymore. I get using # within a page to further specify some section, but not ..this. It serves no purpose at all.

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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-02-13, 10:21

It's the new trend of a 'single page app' these days, every click handled by a background request. And don't get me started on how they never change the HTML title to reflect what the current page is all about - so if you try to navigate using back/forward buttons in the browser all you see is the name of the site repeated several times.
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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by Gemmaugr » 2025-02-13, 11:50

moonbat wrote:
2025-02-13, 10:21
It's the new trend of a 'single page app' these days, every click handled by a background request. And don't get me started on how they never change the HTML title to reflect what the current page is all about - so if you try to navigate using back/forward buttons in the browser all you see is the name of the site repeated several times.
Didn't even notice that. Yeah, the "modern" internet really does the whole Smartphone Focus thing doesn't it. Either just catering to them with infinite scrolling a la Tapas comics, or text scrunched up in the middle a la new Wikipedia, or content links are all modal/lightbox pop-up overlays. If they just had alternative or fallback code for desktop users it wouldn't be so bad.. but they often enough don't even have that.

Necessity used to be the mother of invention, and laziness the father, but it's now been replaced by convenience for both.

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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-02-13, 12:52

moonbat wrote:
2025-02-13, 10:21
don't get me started on how they never change the HTML title to reflect what the current page is all about
Other than in Pale Moon, when was the last time you saw a page title in a titlebar?
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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-02-13, 13:02

On sites that still think of themselves as serving pages, and that don't use a bloated framework to do it; else everyone else has fallen for the single page app idiocy :(
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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-02-13, 13:15

No, I meant, in browsers. Physically visible.
Tabs on top and in the title bar area has hidden page titles from people (aside from the cut-off tab title) for years.
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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-02-13, 13:48

And this insanity isn't limited to browsers, being off using Windows daily for a while now it's hard to differentiate between Chrome, Edge, Acrobat Reader and Windows Explorer (in 11) because they all look the same featureless, bland identical way with tabs on top and flat line drawings that are supposed to be icons.
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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by Gemmaugr » 2025-02-13, 14:44

moonbat wrote:
2025-02-13, 13:48
And this insanity isn't limited to browsers, being off using Windows daily for a while now it's hard to differentiate between Chrome, Edge, Acrobat Reader and Windows Explorer (in 11) because they all look the same featureless, bland identical way with tabs on top and flat line drawings that are supposed to be icons.
Speaking of Windows (8,10,11), not only does it look the same as chromium browsers, they've also decreased the ability to customize and configure them. I've still got a Windows 95,98, and XP (still the best Windows OS), theme file. I had green text & cursors, and black & grey backgrounds before Matrix was cool (showing my age a bit..).

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Re: Why, web-devs, why?

Unread post by BenFenner » 2025-02-13, 15:23

To be fair, these single-page monstrosities can be setup to update the location bar and HTML title properly. It is some of the first things I look for when doing Q&A for them (if I can't get the whole idea axed in preliminary meetings).