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Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by suzyne » 2025-01-24, 09:08

I was listening to a favourite streaming station (Poptron) and heard a song that was very reminiscent of the style and sound of Owl City (who I love) and thought I would search to find out more about the band called Work It Work It. My first attempt at searching was for:

work it work it band

Yes, yes, I know I could have used quotes or made the search more detailed, but of the search engines I tried, only one could understand what I was looking for and it was Yandex! The others (DuckDuckGo, Brave, Qwant, Startpage) didn't have a clue.

The winner:
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The rest...
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by sinfulosd » 2025-01-25, 07:50

Sometimes, people either underestimate or just completely dismiss how great this search engine could be. It also has the best image search out of all the search engines out there. I decided to search for a screenshot on Google, Bing and Yandex, and only Yandex is able to bring me actual results, each and every single time.
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by THX-1139 » 2025-01-25, 12:36

I have been using Yandex as my main go to search engine for many years now, with DDG and Searx.org next in that order.
If I can't find it on Yandex I give up! I Rarely (if ever) find it on any of the others...IOW; If it exists, I can find it on Yandex.
And FWIW I have not Touched a Google search in about 10 or more years (at least that I am aware of)

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Yandex suffers its own biases

Post by Mæstro » 2025-01-28, 18:44

A word of caution is due regarding Yandex. The search engine is Russian and under its government’s influence. Search for the Ukraine, for example, and the top results are mostly from the Russian press and support Moscow’s opinions. Western search engines have their own biases, of course: even now, I am reading in the papers how Google has accepted Washington’s latest euphemisms. But while Yandex is true to its etymology and will yield results others lack, one should mind that it is likewise true to its jealous mistress.
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by moonbat » 2025-01-29, 04:33

Mæstro wrote:
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A word of caution is due regarding Yandex.
Not as though other search engines are paragons of unbiased results either :coffee:
Use it for what you see fit and vet the results, same as with other search engines. The recent Chinese LLM DeepSeek has been criticized for refusing to discuss Tiananmen Square or other topics the CCP finds controversial - that doesn't negate its utility for other tasks.
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by suzyne » 2025-01-29, 04:49

sinfulosd wrote:
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It also has the best image search out of all the search engines out there.
For sure. It's ability to find different sizes of an image and even similar images (like it understands what it is looking at) beats Google. At least that was my experience a few years back, (I haven't used the images feature of Google but maybe it's improved) because Yandex is always my first visit for such results.
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A word of caution is due regarding Yandex.
Yes. I don't use it for history or news. Besides, when I do want the "official" Russian perspective I just get it straight from RT: https://www.rt.com/ I firmly believe in getting information from multiple sources. Aljazeera is another such favourite that I visit at least weekly.
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Re: Yandex suffers its own biases

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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by Mæstro » 2025-01-29, 18:26

‘My’ narrative? Just after showing an example of Yandex’s biases, I had gone on to point out the latest example of Google bowing to US authorities. I distrust the Five Eyes also. I was the one who was motivated enough to bring Mojeek to the forum’s attention after DuckDuckGo began to exert greater political influence on its results. Nato has enough cheerleaders; I, an absolute pacifist (on religious grounds) who rejects all military blocs in full, am not one of them.
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by Moonchild » 2025-01-29, 22:06

Mæstro wrote:
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after DuckDuckGo began to exert greater political influence on its results
Correction: After DuckDuckGo's upstream began to exert greater political influence on its results - it should be noted that they worked on combating that political influence/bias pretty much immediately.
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by Mæstro » 2025-01-29, 23:40

Thank you for the correction; I was unaware of this detail. :oops:
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Re: Yandex beats the rest when searching for an obscure pop band

Post by andyprough » 2025-01-29, 23:56

Mæstro wrote:
2025-01-29, 18:26
‘My’ narrative? Just after showing an example of Yandex’s biases, I had gone on to point out the latest example of Google bowing to US authorities. I distrust the Five Eyes also. I was the one who was motivated enough to bring Mojeek to the forum’s attention after DuckDuckGo began to exert greater political influence on its results. Nato has enough cheerleaders; I, an absolute pacifist (on religious grounds) who rejects all military blocs in full, am not one of them.
I apologize. The tech world seems overrun by neocon mouthpieces for the western military industrial complex sometimes lately, but I shouldn't accuse you of that. You are right that the Russian state media certainly warrants criticism for their obvious bias just as many in western media do as well. I agree with your rejection of military blocs, well stated. I'll delete my prior post.