Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

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Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-10-01, 09:30

From here.
Mozilla says that it has reviewed the extension and found violations. The following claims were made:
  • The extension is not asking for consent for data collecting.
  • The extension contains "minified, concatenated or otherwise machine-generated code".
  • There is no privacy policy.
As a consequence, Mozilla disabled the extension on the Firefox Add-ons Store.

Hill refuted all three claims that Mozilla made on the GitHub repository stating that the extension is not collecting any data, that there is no minified code in uBlock Origin Lite, and that there is a privacy policy.
He admitted further that he does not "have the time or motivation to spend time on this nonsense" and won't react to the allegations made or appeal the decision.
In a follow-up, Hill criticized the "nonsensical and hostile review process" that put added burden on developers. Mozilla disabled all versions of the extension except for the very first one. It still flagged the extension for the very same reasons, but nevertheless decided to keep the outdated version up.
Does it affect uBlock Origin? The core extension remains available for Firefox. Unlike Google Chrome, Firefox will continue to support Manifest V2 extensions. Mozilla has not flagged this extensions or disabled it.
Hill is now self-hosting the extension uBlock Origin Lite for Firefox on the GitHub repository. Interested users find it on the releases page as a direct download.
And the icing on the cake:
Mozilla contacted Hill a few days later, likely after the thing blew up everywhere, stating that the "previous decision was incorrect" and that the extension has been restored.
The organization issued an apology for the "mistake" and recommended to Hill to reach out whenever he has questions or concerns about a review.
Hill decided to go ahead with the plan to self-host the extension. He removed the extension from Mozilla's Add-ons repository as a consequence.
When you search for uBlock Origin Lite, you won't get the extension returned anymore.
It remains to be seen if the two parties will come closer together again or if this breakup will be permanent.
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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by suzyne » 2024-10-01, 09:53

Sounds like some automated testing error? I would have thought that a big browser organisation like Mozilla could maintain a list of "these are vital extensions" which might be like a few dozen, or maybe even up to a hundred that would have oversight by humans and have checks and balances to prevent changes in status that result in a PR stuff-up like this?
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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-10-01, 10:27

DIE mandated incompetence will manifest everywhere. In the pre Chrome copycat days (2002-11, when version 4 was released along with copying Chrome's rabid release schedule since), they actually had human addon reviewers. Now they just force you to sign your extensions (even if you want to just make one for your own use or are learning) to use them on the regular build.
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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-10-01, 10:42

Just incompetence, regardless. Then again, I wouldn't rule out the hunt for ever more automation and ever less human eyeballs on it. One of the reasons they went for WEs after all was to not have to vet extensions anymore as they would be much more limited in their access to browser internals...
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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-10-04, 04:37

Could be? Is there any doubt? They're utter hypocrites.
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Re: Mozilla screws up again - with the uBlock Origin developer

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-10-04, 07:19

It's clear to me that that article is providing a cleverly-rewritten version of reality, that requires some translation to understand what exactly it means.

From that article:
Building better technology for the industry

In parallel to our existing consumer products, we have the opportunity to build a better infrastructure for the online advertising industry as a whole. Advertising at large cannot be improved unless the tech it’s built upon prioritizes securing user data. This is precisely why we acquired Anonym.

Anonym is building technology that can provide more privacy-preserving infrastructure for data sharing between advertisers and publishers, in a way that also supports a level playing field rather than consolidating data in a few large companies.

Advertising will not improve unless we address the underlying data sharing issues, and solve for the economic incentives that rely on that data. We want to reshape the industry so that aggregated population insights are the norm instead of platforms sharing individual user data with each other indiscriminately.

Anonym is building the technology needed to enable that, with privacy-preserving techniques such as differential privacy, which adds calibrated noise to data sets so that the individual user data is kept as private as possible, while still being useful in aggregate. Calculations on that data occur in secure and private environments. The system is designed such that humans don’t have access to individual data. The outputs are aggregated and anonymized, then Anonym destroys the individual data. This pragmatic solution inspires us to envision a world in which digital ads can be both effective and privacy-preserving. It’s not impossible.
Now, keep in mind that Mozilla, through its acquisition of Anonym, effectively should be read as equal to its acquired organisation. Effectively, by wanting to control the data streams, Mozilla becomes a stand-in for publishers. They will be the aggregators and manipulators of data, meaning they are effectively hijacking advertising at the client-side. For this to be viable and above all profitable for Mozilla, it means that end-users should not block advertising completely; if there is no delivered ad, then there won't be any data to manipulate or offer to advertisers by Mozilla through their infrastructure. Mozilla effectively becomes a broker for aggregated user data. That is a very lucrative business.
Another major issue is that Mozilla, in its blog post, fully ignores the fact that advertising is perfectly possible without collecting data of any kind of the user viewing the advertising (as demonstrated by the GDPR enforcement, even though that's a whole different can of worms), so they don't have to address the underlying data structures, and they don't have to share this data with advertisers, in the first place -- "anonymized" or not. The issue is that not-sharing would make Mozilla uninteresting as a publishing partner for advertisers.

They also say they "want to re-shape the industry". At 5% marketshare, Mozilla simply isn't in a position to re-shape the industry and it's a lofty goal that won't be achieved, setting themselves up to fail once again by not reality-checking their intent before going full-steam ahead. The backlash they are getting will also further reduce their market share.

So... translated?
Building more profitable technology for us

In parallel to our existing consumer products, we have the opportunity to build a more profitable infrastructure for us. Advertising at large allegedly cannot be improved unless the tech it’s built upon prioritizes securing user data. This is precisely why we acquired Anonym.

Mozilla is integrating technology that can (theoretically) provide more privacy-preserving infrastructure for data sharing between advertisers and Mozilla, in a way that provides an income stream to Mozilla rather than sending user data directly to a few large companies.

**unrealistic goal paragraph removed**

Mozilla is integrating the technology needed to enable that, with minimally privacy-preserving techniques such as differential privacy, which adds calibrated[How?] noise to data sets so that the individual user data is only known to Mozilla, while still being useful in aggregate. Calculations on that data occur in Mozilla-operated servers. The system is designed such that humans don’t have access to individual data. The outputs are aggregated and anonymized, sent to advertisers, then Mozilla destroys the individual data (but not the profile-building aggregates). This pragmatic solution ensures we can tap into the advertising data stream for personalized advertising and data harvesting. It’s not impossible.
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