Pale Moon vs SeaMonkey

[moonbat]

Tried building it but it has some gstreamer dependency despite my having libgstreamer1.0-dev installed -

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checking for gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.25
                      gstreamer-app-0.10
                      gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10... configure: error: gstreamer and gstreamer-plugins-base development packages are needed to build gstreamer backend. Install them or disable gstreamer support with --disable-gstreamer

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apt search gstreamer | grep ^i
i   gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0            - GObject introspection data for the GStream
i A gstreamer1.0-adapter-pulseeffec - GStreamer adapter plugin                  
i   gstreamer1.0-alsa               - GStreamer plugin for ALSA                 
i A gstreamer1.0-autogain-pulseeffe - GStreamer autogain plugin                 
i   gstreamer1.0-clutter-3.0        - Clutter PLugin for GStreamer 1.0          
i A gstreamer1.0-convolver-pulseeff - GStreamer convolver plugin                
i A gstreamer1.0-crystalizer-pulsee - GStreamer crystalizer plugin              
i   gstreamer1.0-gl                 - GStreamer plugins for GL                  
i   gstreamer1.0-gtk3               - GStreamer plugin for GTK+3                
i   gstreamer1.0-libav              - ffmpeg plugin for GStreamer               
i   gstreamer1.0-nice               - ICE library (GStreamer plugin)            
i   gstreamer1.0-packagekit         - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using P
i   gstreamer1.0-pipewire           - GStreamer 1.0 plugin for the PipeWire mult
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad        - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set      
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-base       - GStreamer plugins from the "base" set     
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386  - GStreamer plugins from the "base" set     
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-base-apps  - GStreamer helper programs from the "base" 
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-good       - GStreamer plugins from the "good" set     
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386  - GStreamer plugins from the "good" set     
i   gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly       - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set     
i   gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio         - GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio (transitio
i   gstreamer1.0-tools              - Tools for use with GStreamer              
i   gstreamer1.0-vaapi              - VA-API plugins for GStreamer              
i   gstreamer1.0-x                  - GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango       
i   gstreamer1.0-x:i386             - GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango       
i   libgstreamer-gl1.0-0            - GStreamer GL libraries                    
i A libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0   - GStreamer libraries from the "bad" set    
i   libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0  - GStreamer libraries from the "base" set   
i A libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0: - GStreamer libraries from the "base" set   
i   libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-de - GStreamer development files for libraries 
i   libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0  - GStreamer development files for libraries 
i   libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0: - GStreamer development files for libraries 
i   libgstreamer1.0-0               - Core GStreamer libraries and elements     
i A libgstreamer1.0-0:i386          - Core GStreamer libraries and elements     
i A libgstreamer1.0-dev             - GStreamer core development files          
i   phonon-backend-gstreamer-common - Phonon GStreamer 1.0.x backend icons 

[Nigaikaze]

it has some gstreamer dependency despite my having libgstreamer1.0-dev installed

Looks like the GStreamerLoader.cpp file is explicitly looking for the 0.10 versions of the gstreamer .so files. Maybe try changing those to the current 1.0 version filenames? I dunno if any of the other gstreamer files in mozilla/content/media/gstreamer/ are doing that, since I haven't had time to look through the rest of the source, but that's a good place to start.

[micwoj92]

GStreamer 0.10 is much different from 1.0, no point in doing that. Some distributions have version 0.10 provided for compatibility reasons, but it's not that common since it is unmaintained since 2012.

https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/docum ... 010-and-10

[trava90]

Wow, SeaMonkey is still using GStreamer 0.10? That's insane. Pale Moon added support for GStreamer 1.0 over 7 years ago before dropping it in favor of using FFmpeg instead about 6 years ago.

[Nigaikaze]

SeaMonkey is still using GStreamer 0.10?

Nope, this is Instantbird that Moonbat and I are talking about. In retrospect I guess we should be using the offtopic tags for this. Sorry for the confusion.

[trava90]

Nope, this is Instantbird that Moonbat and I are talking about. In retrospect I guess we should be using the offtopic tags for this. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah, gotcha! I didn't read back far enough in the topic before posting.

[4td8s]

They spurned Moonchild's offer to switch to Goanna and contribute to the platform (that would've definitely helped). Now they're screwed, stuck on an old version of Gecko while Firefox continues to diverge.

screwed only because Seamonkey has so few devs nowadays unlike in the past

[Moonchild]

unlike in the past

I don't think seamonkey has ever had "many devs". They've always leaned heavily on the Mozilla devs as a whole while doing their own thing. That's not a bad thing, mind you, but your post does seem to give the wrong impression.

[fatboy]

A fork of Seamonkey? Sign me up! I am always keen to try new browsers that are NOT Chromium-based

[4td8s]

so far only new 2.53.x releases like 2.53.17 beta 1 (that came out in late June) are being produced.
I won't be expecting any "major" releases of SM greater than 2.53.x this year (or even next year)