An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

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Which dominates your image results if you search ‘Roselia’ with your usual engine and settings?

Five ornately dressed anime girls with musical instruments
19
76%
The above, but with fleshy human beings instead
0
No votes
A greenish creature that looks like a plant-girl
4
16%
Other (please specify)
2
8%
 
Total votes: 25

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An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Mæstro » 2023-01-04, 03:54

The unusual question for a poll is inspired by a comment I had read in my internet wanderings. Use whatever search engine you use most often, with your ordinary settings. As most of us seem to avoid the search engines that prefer filter bubbles, I hope that results should be fairly comparable.
For my part, I had got mostly the anime band. (I have Mojeek set to use Bing’s image search; I should most likely have got no results at all with Pixabay. I doubt my regional setting, the UK, has much to do with it.)
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by andyprough » 2023-01-04, 05:22

The top half of my search results are dominated by the ornately dressed anime band, and the bottom half by the green person. DDG in the nation of Texas.

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by moonbat » 2023-01-04, 05:23

First results for me on DDG were about a Pokemon named Roselia.
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by jobbautista9 » 2023-01-04, 05:46

It's the anime band for me in DDG, with a few Pokemon sprinkled in. It's even worse for me when I turn off the "Philippines (en)" region setting, which results in Pokemon being pushed below, lol.
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by vannilla » 2023-01-04, 08:50

Before this poll Roselia was only a pokemon to me.
DDG with default settings and regional filter switched off (and this specific Pale Moon instance I'm using right now also deletes some data on shutdown) gives the band, then some pictures of the plant monster.
The normal web search gives the beast as the first few results.

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Moonchild » 2023-01-04, 08:54

The anime dominates the top two rows (DDG, region: off, safe-search filter: off) with a few cosplay ones mixed in (2 out of 12). the Pokémon trickles in below that.
I wasn't even aware it was an anime band.
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Toa-Nuva » 2023-01-04, 11:23

First page is almost entirely about the Pokemon (which I assume is what you meant by "greenish creature that looks like a plant-girl"), there is only a single result about a band near the bottom of the page.
Interestingly, it's a lot more mixed when I switch to image search - 11 images with the Pokemon, 7 pictures with anime girls, 2 pictures with real humans.

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Moonchild » 2023-01-04, 11:27

Toa-Nuva wrote:
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Interestingly, it's a lot more mixed when I switch to image search
The question was about image results :)
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by gepus » 2023-01-05, 13:51

Five ornately dressed anime girls with musical instruments => DDG.

A greenish creature that looks like a plant-girl (Pokemon) => Google

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2023-01-05, 19:29

DDG Italian setting: the first page of 21 images is 30%:30%:30% between the three alternatives (I ignored all of them before)
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Tharthan » 2023-01-21, 19:29

vannilla wrote:
2023-01-04, 08:50
Before this poll Roselia was only a pokemon to me.
Same here. If you had asked me "What is Roselia?" I would have said "A POKéMON first appearing in Generation III".
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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Sablesword » 2023-01-22, 12:18

I voted "other" because while the website results I got were dominated by "A greenish creature that looks like a plant-girl" pokemon thing, the image results were dominated by "Five ornately dressed anime girls with musical instruments"

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by BenFenner » 2023-01-22, 16:46

Sablesword wrote:
2023-01-22, 12:18
I voted "other" because while the website results I got were dominated by "A greenish creature that looks like a plant-girl" pokemon thing, the image results were dominated by "Five ornately dressed anime girls with musical instruments"
Well, the question specifically asked for your image results, so you should change your vote accordingly.

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Re: An informal investigation of search engine behaviour

Post by Sablesword » 2023-01-24, 12:43

BenFenner wrote:
2023-01-22, 16:46
Well, the question specifically asked for your image results, so you should change your vote accordingly.
[checks] So it did. I misread it.