The war against anonymity - Instagram

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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-10-14, 08:52

I still don't get it, sorry. Haven't slept much in the past 2 weeks because of constant pain so my IQ has dropped in half or so.
I only have (well, had) one account (which kept getting disabled randomly and without any reasons and I kept restoring it, until they finally forced the selfie verification upon me and when it got refused, the account got permabanned).

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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by Night Wing » 2022-10-14, 12:40

@ LuftWafflePilot

Some people, they want to use "one" browser and no other. Most website maintainers code for four main browsers and they are: Chrome (and it's ilk), Microsoft Edge, Firefox and Safari.

Basically, you started to irritate the site maintainers because you just want to use Pale Moon and no other browser for Instagram. You cannot force site maintainers to do what you want to do.

And by getting on their nerves more and more, you got yourself banned. When things started to go south with you using Pale Moon for Instagram, you should have used another browser such as Waterfox, Firefox, Chrome, etc, etc for Instagram. In essence, you "cooked your own goose" by irritating the maintainer or maintainers for Instagram.

As for me, when websites will not work with Pale Moon and I really don't need to visit that site, I do not visit that site anymore. But, if I need to visit a website everyday and that site will not work properly with Pale Moon, I use Waterfox for that site. I do not start to irritate those site maintainers.

As an example.

There are some news site that will render the page properly when using Pale Moon such as Fox News. But, I cannot see the comments below an article because they do not show up when using Pale Moon. So I use Waterfox for Fox News.

Some of the sites I visit everyday using Pale Moon are the Pale Moon Forums, Linux Mint Forums, Jamboards (wave surfing), Standup Paddleboards, gHacks, NOAA (weather), YouTube, Daily Mail (news), Cat Site forums, Trad Gang (archery), many web cam sites, Hotmail, Gmail, Comcast, etc. They all work fine when using Pale Moon.

This is why it is wise to have more than one browser in your quiver when it comes to browsers.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2022-10-14, 21:40

Night Wing wrote:
2022-10-14, 12:40
1) Some people, they want to use "one" browser and no other. [...] it is wise to have more than one browser in your quiver when it comes to browsers.
2) Basically, you started to irritate the site maintainers because you just want to use Pale Moon and no other browser for Instagram. You cannot force site maintainers to do what you want to do.
3) As for me, when websites will not work with Pale Moon and I really don't need to visit that site, I do not visit that site anymore.
1) I appreciate the possibility of using one browser, one I trust for many reasons (privacy, tracking but also performance et al.). I accept to use another, but I'm not happy with the idea because, using it seldom, I do not know well how to configure its preferences.
2) We have a saying "the customer is always right", which seems quite disattended nowadays. And there was a "viewable with any browser campaign" not many years ago. There are cases one shall insist (specially public administration sites).
The issue of anonymity, or the need to login, is another thing. There are cases in which an authenticated login is necessary (typically public administration - tax office, health records, salary payslips - or banks or services where you buy something), or appropriate (I run an astronomical database, and we require people to register with affiliation and e-mail, though we rarely check the logs; also forums require a login, though nicknames are often used ... I tend not to on technical forums and appear with my real name). On other cases it might be annoying ... I rarely use google maps, but never log in although I have an institutional Gsuite account)
3) Yes, if an occasional site does not work with Pale Moon, I will not visit it. I do not frequent social sites. I have no problem in using Chrome for google meet or zoom for work (and using my institutional Gsuite account for the former). Most sites I need to use regularly work with Pale Moon (including You Tube for seminars and conferences). However some public service sites don't (health service booking, electricity supplier, etc.). I do use Chrome, but I'm not happy with it.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-10-15, 02:15

Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
2022-10-14, 21:40
We have a saying "the customer is always right"
Unfortunately we are mere users and not customers when it comes to browsers; Internet Explorer being bundled for free with Windows killed the market for paid browsers decades ago. "If you aren't paying then you are the product" etc. etc.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2022-10-15, 09:47

I referred to customers of the sites, not of the browsers. What you say is however applicable to that case too.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-10-15, 10:29

Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
2022-10-15, 09:47
I referred to customers of the sites, not of the browsers. What you say is however applicable to that case too.
Unfortunately these days there's a stark separation between the company you are a customer of and the site you are a user of -- so the same logic applies. The people developing the site are in many cases not the people running the company, so any complaint will first have to go through the company to end up with the webmasters (which doesn't happen most of the time" and then fight the business-to-business resistance that the webmasters don't want to do the work or ask for large sums of money to do it properly.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-10-15, 23:02

Companies outsource their websites to various dubious coding shops, even big companies who used to have an in-house development team.
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Re: The war against anonymity - Instagram

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-10-15, 23:46

That's pretty much what I meant to say.

And... the people outsourced to are usually shopped for with minimum expense, too, meaning they will take as many shortcuts as they can. Even if they charge an arm and a leg.
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