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The Off-Topic area is a general community discussion and chat area with special rules of engagement.
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smithy
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by smithy » 2022-06-14, 21:03
Remember Windows 98?
Well, if you’re not old enough to remember the good old days of dial-up Internet, this video will show you what you missed out on during those years.
It was a different world back then - all of 24 years ago..
https://youtu.be/ntQ48-d-8x4
It is common to think of our own time as standing at the apex of civilisation from which the deficiencies of preceding ages may patronisingly be viewed in the light of what is assumed to be progress. The reality is that in the long perspective of history the present century will not hold an enviable position unless the second half is to redeem its first.
Chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson's closing statement - Nurenburg 1946
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Mæstro
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by Mæstro » 2022-06-14, 21:47
We have good statistics from 2005–10 on relative spread of
the internet and
broadband in the industrial countries. Dial-up has survived later than you think; I had had it through my boyhood.
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Dustie_Rose
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by Dustie_Rose » 2022-06-14, 22:29
Hello,
it was only about 10 years ago, my sister finally got DSL broadband in her small town in Texas. Not too far from big city but still there alot of areas in the US that have nothing or only one service to choose besides cell phones. Sands of time flow ever slowly for some.
D. Rose.
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Night Wing
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by Night Wing » 2022-06-14, 23:57
I remember Dial-Up internet. My first computer was an old DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Rainbow 100 desktop computer. I accessed Bulleting Boards back then using a 300 baud external modem with a 15" external monitor. I kind of missed those old "dialing" sounds. I think that was around 1980 or there abouts.
My first Windows computer was a no name brand desktop computer that was built back in 1999 and it was running Windows 98 SE. It came with a 17" external monitor. The internet provider I used back then was Everyone's Internet. It's nickname was "EV1". If my memory serves me correctly, to access the internet, I used a 2400 baud external modem.
The good old days.

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Pentium4User
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by Pentium4User » 2022-06-15, 04:15
I have used it in 2016 because my father thought he could restrict my internet access with parental controls on the router. It was slow, but usable. Some months later he gave up.
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BenFenner
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by BenFenner » 2022-06-16, 18:17
Nothing will ever be as fast as circa 1997 web browsing with a 250 Mb/s cable modem. Cache/buffer bloat wasn't a thing just yet, pages were mere kilobytes, and clicking through hyperlinks was faster than local storage. I don't know if I'll ever experience anything like it ever again. It was incredible.
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Pentium4User
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by Pentium4User » 2022-06-16, 18:28
BenFenner wrote: ↑2022-06-16, 18:17
Nothing will ever be as fast as circa 1997 web browsing with a 250 Mb/s cable modem. Cache/buffer bloat wasn't a thing just yet, pages were mere kilobytes, and clicking through hyperlinks was faster than local storage. I don't know if I'll ever experience anything like it ever again. It was incredible.
And image how fast websites would be today if websites would not use javascrip, Polymer, Webcomponents etc.
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Nuck-TH
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by Nuck-TH » 2022-06-17, 03:44
Pentium4User wrote: ↑2022-06-16, 18:28
And image how fast websites would be today if websites would not use javascrip, Polymer, Webcomponents etc.
JS is fine as long at it is used for its intended purpose - add interactivity to page, not to load and render it(like it is used now).
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Mæstro
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by Mæstro » 2022-06-17, 15:04
I block scripts by default, so I often mirror static pages that stupidly use scripts to render themselves in Archive Today. Most times, this lets me have the static edition that it truly should have been all along. Alas, some pages are so poorly designed that even this fails, and I cannot do this for any deep Web site.
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