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You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by athenian200 » 2021-10-17, 21:13

  • If you think a firewall is a something that only people in burning buildings need to worry about, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you still swear that processors haven't improved much since the Pentium 4 because the clock speeds haven't gone up much, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think newer computers lack the Internet entirely because they don't have a light blue "e" icon on them marked "Internet Explorer," and if you stop using XP you won't have the Internet anymore, then you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you just can't figure out how to get your favorite Pinball game onto a newer version of Windows, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think a Virtual Machine is something like an Oculus Rift, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you bought an iPhone over 10 years ago and just stopped upgrading your PC because you heard you were living in a "post-PC era" and got the impression they stopped making them, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you warn your friends to avoid newer Intel and AMD products because you heard they have "moldy core processors" and think they are prone to rot and decay, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you're still not over your bad experience with Windows Vista, but you can't figure out where to buy a copy of Linux or how to install it, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you just don't like the wallpaper on newer versions of Windows, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think using "password" as your password is brilliant and no one will ever guess it, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think IT people are so arrogant and controlling that you find rebelling against their recommendations liberating somehow, and they remind you too much of your father, then you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If when the salesman told you it was the last PC you would ever need, you actually believed him, then you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think all software upgrades are a scam by greedy corporations to introduce code bloat and make you think your hardware is inadequate merely because your pal said so, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If your printer manufacturer stopped supporting your device, and you think you're clever for avoiding the expense of a new printer by avoiding a Windows upgrade, then you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think Spectre is a ghost, and Meltdown is what your spouse has when you disappoint them, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think a NAT is something you need a window screen to protect yourself from, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think an "Aunty virus" involves catching the flu from your visiting Aunt, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you think Windows 11 is older than Windows 95 because it's a lower number, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If you want to run full screen MS-DOS applications, and don't know if you can afford a "DOS box" like everyone is talking about, you might be a Windows XP user.
  • If all you do with your PC is use Windows Movie Maker, and you still swear XP has the best version of it, then you might be a Windows XP user.
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by bgstack15 » 2021-10-18, 12:31

The built-in Search function to Windows XP is vastly superior to any newer Windows version's search functions. But a lot of Windows is better replaced by various third-party tools.

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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by Moonchild » 2021-10-18, 13:48

  • If you think the built-in search function on your desktop is fantastic and should be used for everything, you might be a Windows XP user.
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by Pentium4User » 2021-10-18, 15:40

Moonchild wrote:
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  • If you think the built-in search function on your desktop is fantastic and should be used for everything, you might be a Windows XP user.
Hasn't that been added by Windows Search that came with Vista and was available as an update for XP too?

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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by Blacklab » 2021-10-18, 15:54

Or just use the excellent 'Everything' search tool for Windows from Voidtools: https://www.voidtools.com/ :)

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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by therube » 2021-11-18, 21:15

I am still an XP user - kind of*.
I was an XP user - full time, until March of this year.

*Machine, all e4300 & 2 GB of RAM of it, still runs our accounting system, so it's acting basically as a server, at this point (instead of "my computer").



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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by moonbat » 2021-11-18, 22:53

Never understood why XP users refused to upgrade to at least 7. That was the pinnacle of Windows on the desktop. And it would stay in classic mode if it figured you didn't have enough system resources for all the visual effects anyway (that feature was introduced in XP along with themes)
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by yereverluvinuncleber » 2021-11-18, 23:25

or,

o you just like XP for the familiarity and speed of use, fast boot speeds &c, no confused Microsoft UIX, no white cog of doom.
o you enjoy running retro computers and retro o/ses.
o you have software that is 16bit or has 16bit stubs that will not work on Vista +
o you have essential manufacturing hardware whose software requires XP, (replace mfg with finance, medical, military, trackside &c)
o you use XP to analyse o/s functionality, APIs &c as you are building an XP/2003 compatible operating system such as ReactOS
o ditto but this time - Wine.
o you are building gov.t software for countries such as China where XP's userbase is still >20% and you need a test system.
o you are building software that might potentially be run on legacy systems, so you need a test XP system to at least try it.
o you have a test XP system so you can support users on XP in countries where (ditto to the above)

o you have a system that is disconnected from the internet, runs a program or two and just works, so why not? Its just an o/s not a fashion statement.

PS. 20% of Windows users in China, think about those numbers... you ignore that number of potential consumers at your peril.
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by moonbat » 2021-11-18, 23:48

yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:25
o you just like XP for the familiarity and speed of use, fast boot speeds &c, no confused Microsoft UIX, no white cog of doom.
You get that on 7 as well. People act as though there was nothing between XP and 10.
yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:25
you have essential manufacturing hardware whose software requires XP, (replace mfg with finance, medical, military, trackside &c)
yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:25
o you have a system that is disconnected from the internet, runs a program or two and just works, so why not? Its just an o/s not a fashion statement.
Those aren't the people we're talking about. These are bog standard average users refusing to upgrade an OS whose extended support ended 7 years ago and still continue to use it on the internet and expect an unauthorized build of Pale Moon to continue to cater to them.
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2021-11-18, 23:25
PS. 20% of Windows users in China, think about those numbers... you ignore that number of potential consumers at your peril.
So Pale Moon devs should continue to support an abandoned operating system because those 'potential consumers' from China are going to send them a fuckton of cash to continue to do so?
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by Moonchild » 2021-11-19, 00:29

moonbat wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:48
So Pale Moon devs should continue to support an abandoned operating system because those 'potential consumers' from China are going to send them a fuckton of cash to continue to do so?
For the record, so far as I can tell in all the 12+ years pale moon has existed, only like 3 people from China have ever donated to the project (and not sure if any of them were actually from mainland China or from HK/Taiwan; probably the latter...)
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by athenian200 » 2021-11-19, 01:27

yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:25
or,

o you just like XP for the familiarity and speed of use, fast boot speeds &c, no confused Microsoft UIX, no white cog of doom.
o you enjoy running retro computers and retro o/ses.
o you have software that is 16bit or has 16bit stubs that will not work on Vista +
o you have essential manufacturing hardware whose software requires XP, (replace mfg with finance, medical, military, trackside &c)
o you use XP to analyse o/s functionality, APIs &c as you are building an XP/2003 compatible operating system such as ReactOS
o ditto but this time - Wine.
o you are building gov.t software for countries such as China where XP's userbase is still >20% and you need a test system.
o you are building software that might potentially be run on legacy systems, so you need a test XP system to at least try it.
o you have a test XP system so you can support users on XP in countries where (ditto to the above)

o you have a system that is disconnected from the internet, runs a program or two and just works, so why not? Its just an o/s not a fashion statement.

PS. 20% of Windows users in China, think about those numbers... you ignore that number of potential consumers at your peril.
This thread is mostly making fun of people who think it's a good idea to use a Windows XP machine online, because it's a huge security risk. And also, your use cases aren't very funny. ;)
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by yereverluvinuncleber » 2021-11-19, 22:41

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2021-11-19, 01:27
And also, your use cases aren't very funny. ;)
Yes, you are quite right but...I didn't see the funny side but I do tend to defend the underdog in all things. Remember, Palemoon itself is often the underdog in the world and I would stand and defend it too.

In truth there is always a reason for people doing what they do and it sometimes does not always make sense to follow the crowd when they are clearly taking the piss out of another smaller group that cannot defend themselves. Often the bigger crowd is just bullying or possibly ignorant in what they are doing.

In truth I'd be an XP user too if it was possible to make it fully secure, if it perhaps it was open source and users could secure it themselves. It is very fast to operate and perfectly usable for specific tasks. It is slick and fast and to my mind only lacks general 64bit support to be truly usable. If I could create an o/s as good as XP with the number of users it still has then I'd consider it a massive success.

I was talking to someone today who keeps an XP system for performing certain sound transformations which he finds much easier to perform on XP. Later versions of Windows are often so busy playing with themselves that audio processing can be interrupted by Windows wanting to do this or that. XP being simpler and having less processes taking up resource is a better platform for avoiding interruptions. It seems to have built in MIDI control and other audio improvements, features that were dropped in later versions of Windows.

Today I re-wrote a program that used the MCISendString API to record sound. It turns out that Cortana now holds the default audio input device open meaning that this documented API is now useless to programmers and previously functioning programs do not operate due to shoddy programming by Microsoft. Honestly, Win10 causes me more grief than XP ever did.

So, we could have a thread that denigrates iphone users? I think they are a bunch of useless dickheads but that opinion can be discounted as it comes from an iphone 8 user.
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Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-11-19, 22:59

For the forty-eleventh time... WHAT.. THE.. ACTUAL.. FUCK.. IS.. A.. PALEMOON?!

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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

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Who cares?
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

Post by Moonchild » 2021-11-20, 08:26

I do.
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

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New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-11-19, 22:59
For the forty-eleventh time... WHAT.. THE.. ACTUAL.. FUCK.. IS.. A.. PALEMOON?!
yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
2021-11-19, 23:48
Who cares?
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Remember, only you can prevent Earth's destruction by spelling Pale Moon with a space. :)
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

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athenian200 wrote:
2021-11-20, 10:04
Remember, only you can prevent Earth's destruction by spelling Pale Moon with a space.
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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

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The Pale Moon website wrote:The name is "Pale Moon", not "Palemoon", "PaleMoon", "Pale-moon", "pale moon" or "palemoon". Please use the proper, 2-word, capitalized form.
Nevertheless please forgive us Linux users living on the command line since
The Pale Moon website wrote:Create a symbolic link /usr/bin/palemoon that points to ~/palemoon/palemoon:
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Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-11-20, 14:09

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Re: You might be a Windows XP user if...

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Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
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Nevertheless please forgive us Linux users living on the command line since
Nevertheless using spaces on the command line is a thing in linux since... forever, really.
Both Pale\ Moon and 'Pale Moon' are perfectly valid ways. this, by the way, is the same thing you do on the Windows command-line (quoting).
Yet, people like yourself insist that thisistheonlyrealwaytodoit... and that despite that tab completion in any sane shell will do the heavy lifting for you.

REGARDLESS, any perceived cli restrictions when issuing commands to your O.S. is in no way a reason to not use proper forms in normal written text.

If you write about Internet Explorer, do you consistently write IEXPLORE instead of its name? No. So then, don't do it for Pale Moon either.
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