Windows 7 is an OS that exists I guess even if it is EoL..

[John connor]

I'd share my new desktop, but as of right now it's R rated with Miss July of 1979. So there's your visual.

Still running Windows 7 like a good majority of everyone here.

[Tharthan]

Still running Windows 7 like a good majority of everyone here.

'Comply or die! Comply or die! Comply or die!'

...the shouts of that that you will hear from them will only grow louder and louder as time marches on. They really placed so many users (including myself) into a quagmire.

[John connor]

Still running Windows 7 like a good majority of everyone here.

'Comply or die! Comply or die! Comply or die!'

...the shouts of that that you will hear from them will only grow louder and louder as time marches on. They really placed so many users (including myself) into a quagmire.

I like how a lot of people are blowing hard all on about how you need to update or else you'll be sorry with hacking and crap. Never mind the fact I have only four updates and use a netbook with XP that serves as a small FTP server that has never been "hacked" or gotten malware. In fact, since I ran Win 98se I've never used the mainstay of constant updates. I will only, and ONLY use an update if it addresses a specific problem I may have with software or hardware. My anti-virus solution is using Sandboxie for PM, don't browse shady sites, scan ALL downloads at VirusTotal and periodically clone my computers. You have so many people feel like they need the "latest and greatest" and if not you'll full prey to something. I feel M$ themselves perpetrated this in an effort to sell a new OS. And with 10 it was free, but I know damn well nothing in life is free, nothing! You're paying for it in the form of telemetry. Redmond turned the user into their little cash cow.

[Moonchild]

Even people a lot less diligent on Windows 7 shouldn't panic (although I do recommend they install all important updates) since you aren't "suddenly" vulnerable to stuff just because it EoLed -- in fact being on a stable and mature O.S. that isn't constantly tinkered with means that for years now the sole focus has been finding and fixing whatever potential exploits were left. EoL Win 7 is safer than constant-churn Win 10, IMHO. If something is absolutely critical I also wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft releases an out-of-support patch for it like they did with XP a few times, considering how many Windows users are on Windows 7 and those who are are likely not going to "up"grade anytime soon, including large businesses.

[moonbat]

EoL Win 7 is safer than constant-churn Win 10, IMHO.

Reminds me of the contrast between 2 browsers derived from a common ancestor that shall never be named

[John connor]

Reminds me of the contrast between 2 browsers derived from a common ancestor that shall never be named

So a browser and an OS walk into a bar...

[Pentium4User]

Still running Windows 7 like a good majority of everyone here.

I hope they will change, because Windows 7 will become more insecure from patchday to patchday. You may compare the updates for ESU with the updates for all MS baybe will release for server security vulnerabilities.
Upgrade to Win 8,1 or 10 (I don't recommend it because of Telemetry) or buy ESU.
Or you may install a Linux distro for free with Dualboot to keep your Win 7.
And, Win 7 will die like XP. In 2014 they still hat a lot of users (I remember more than 20%) and not it is less, maybe because the computers were replaced or they switch/upgraded their OS.

[Moonchild]

Windows 7 will become more insecure from patchday to patchday.

I invite you to actually re-read my post above to see why this is not necessarily the case. Software security is not like material wear, it doesn't become less secure over time by doing nothing, just because time passes.

[Pentium4User]

Windows 7 will become more insecure from patchday to patchday.

I invite you to actually re-read my post above to see why this is not necessarily the case. Software security is not like material wear, it doesn't become less secure over time by doing nothing, just because time passes.

Because Win 7 is still used in businesses with internet connection, it is still interesting for hackers and malware developers. If they find vulnerabilities, Win 7 users without ESU are note secure because they won't receive updates, so they have the risk that they can be attacked more easy.
Huge software like an OS can't be really finally secured, so the risk increases over the time, because more and more vulnerabilities might become public and the systems aren't updated.
I don't think that they will become hacked in a mass, the infected systems are mostly infected because people run untrusted software or open untrusted webpages with hostile scripts.
Best security is thinking before clicking.

[John connor]

Way to blow off every single word I typed and displayed for the world to read verbatim. Did you miss the part about me running a netbook with XP as a local FTP server? Yes, it's true. It's a local only FTP server and I have the last version made of the PM Atom build on it. This netbook is connected to an ethernet cable through the wall in the kitchen. It is connected to an external monitor, mouse and small wireless keyboard much like those used for a Firestick TV appliance.The other uses of this netbook that runs "hacker/malware vulnerable" XP Pro SP3 is a call catcher on my landline. It uses an external USB caller ID capable dial-up modem with a program called PhoneTray. With it I can block phone numbers, phones numbers and names with wild cards, and it will voice announce and give special rings through the external speakers for certain people that call. The other use for this "hacker prone" XP running netbook is to look up recipes and quick Internet searches, Now despite all this and the fact it's been hardwired to the Internet now for at least five years, it has NEVER been hacked or gotten any malware.

Now on top of that, and as I stated, I only use like four updates for my laptop running Win 7 I'm using right now on the couch and my nice gaming desktop that also runs Win 7. No viruses, no hacking, no fiddle or faddle. And I've never been a person to commit to patch Tuesday at all since I ran Windows 98se.

May main forms of security now is the use of Sandboxie for my browser, scanning each and every single download no matter how small or innocent at VirusTotal, and I periodically clone my computers to external USB hard drives which are stored in fireproof safes meant for electronics. If disaster were to ever strike which would be more along the lines of of PSU or a lightning strike taking out my computer's, I can pull out my clone and it will be in large part like nothing ever happened. I also use several different anti-virus and spyware scanning programs many of whom may not have even heard of let alone use. One such program searches for alternative data streams in every single file on the computer. Now how many anti-virus programs like Malewarebytes do that? None, that's how many.

Anyway, as I said, I feel that this fallacy of people all across the Internet saying that you must use the latest and greatest or else don't know their tiny weak little ass from a massive hole in the ground. And I meet and talk to people in the cyberverse and in real life on a day by day bases that are myopic beyond belief and just buy into the statuesque as to what's been tossed out there into the wind for the masses to eat up.

You wanna run Linux? Check out Qubes.

[billmcct]

Just some links that may interest win7 users who wish to keep win7 updated.

Installed on all three of my win7 systems. Have to wait for Feb 11 to see if it really works.
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/thread ... ity.80606/

This has a free option:
https://0patch.com/

Add your Name to this petition:
https://www.fsf.org/windows/upcycle-windows-7

[Moonchild]

This has a free option:
https://0patch.com/

Read the fine print about what the free option doesn't include.
Also read the fine print about it not being able to patch all issues.

[Moonraker]

A silly question here.If i wanted to use windows 7 again after the EOL are microsoft going to charge still?

[New Tobin Paradigm]

You still need a valid and activated license. But Windows Update and Activation Server access will not last forever.

[gepus]

You still need a valid and activated license.

Don't know.
I purchased this computer with Win7 pre-installed on it and also with a genuine Win7 OEM CD.
Never bothered to activate my valid license online.
Except for a small nagging reminder sometimes (to activate online) which I ignored, everything was and still is fine.

[moonbat]

Except for a small nagging reminder sometimes (to activate online) which I ignored, everything was and still is fine.

Then you should activate it before they turn it off and your genuine license becomes worthless. The only reason to worry about not activating is if you're using a pirated key.

[RJARRRPCGP]

IIRC, some people think that Windows 7, even an officially released version and with SP1, will timebomb, even when it was activated, if Windows 7 can't contact a certain Microsoft server, which I suspect will get shut down or disabled shortly. Has anyone here experienced that kind of thing, with it activated, then disconnected from the internet for a good while?

[gepus]

Then you should activate it before they turn it off and your genuine license becomes worthless.

I certainly won't. AFAIK the genuine license is not limited in time. Basically I can purchase a product and start using it even after 30 years.

However Win7 is the last OS from M$ I am on.
If it wasn't inertia combined with laziness I would have dumped Windows already.

[fatboy]

Time to upgrade to Linux

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Criminals.