Private Search Engines - The Ultimate Guide

[van p]

Your mistake. Case closed.

The bottom line is a potential customer contacted them. If their structure/system is so rigid they can't/won't find some way to positively handle the situation, that's their mistake. The result is they have a disgruntled potential customer. That's their mistake, their fault, and their problem. And the case is still, and always will remain, closed.

[Sampei Nihira]

Just look at the Wikipedia results for the name Irene.
Only StartPage and Google indicate the correct search terms:

"Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person.........."

DuckDuckGo explains nothing and only shows a list of people named Irene ......

Off-topic:
What is the "correct answer"?
Wikipedia says this: "Irene is a name derived from εἰρήνη (irini) —the Greek for "peace"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene
So saying "proper name of a feminine Italian person", while other cultures are using it too, seems misleading?

It is not misleading.
The Greek goddess of Peace (Eἰρήνη, Eiréne) in Italian is written "Eirene" which you will notice is not identical to the word "Irene".

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eirene

[Potkeny]

Just look at the Wikipedia results for the name Irene.
Only StartPage and Google indicate the correct search terms:

"Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person.........."

DuckDuckGo explains nothing and only shows a list of people named Irene ......

Off-topic:
What is the "correct answer"?
Wikipedia says this: "Irene is a name derived from εἰρήνη (irini) —the Greek for "peace"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene
So saying "proper name of a feminine Italian person", while other cultures are using it too, seems misleading?

It is not misleading.
The Greek goddess of Peace in Italian is written "Eirene" which you will notice is not identical to the word "Irene".

Off-topic:
But as you can see, lots of other, non-italian/latin speaking countries are using the name "Irene" too, so it's not just a proper name of a feminine Italian person, but a proper name of a feminine person in various cultures?

[Sampei Nihira]

Just look at the Wikipedia results for the name Irene.
Only StartPage and Google indicate the correct search terms:

"Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person.........."

DuckDuckGo explains nothing and only shows a list of people named Irene ......

Off-topic:
What is the "correct answer"?
Wikipedia says this: "Irene is a name derived from εἰρήνη (irini) —the Greek for "peace"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene
So saying "proper name of a feminine Italian person", while other cultures are using it too, seems misleading?

It is not misleading.
The Greek goddess of Peace in Italian is written "Eirene" which you will notice is not identical to the word "Irene".

Off-topic:
But as you can see, lots of other, non-italian/latin speaking countries are using the name "Irene" too, so it's not just a proper name of a feminine Italian person, but a proper name of a feminine person in various cultures?

But this list of names is not grammatically the correct answer in my country.
So DuckDuckGo set in my language is very wrong,
because it is not able to define the etymology of a word.

[superA]

@ Sampei Nihira

I think that you say the same thing with MC, but in other words..

Startpage tracks your IP, your location and returns the more revelant results for you,
for your country, just like G does.

I can assure you that here, if startpage is set in EN, it returns the english version of
Wikipedia results, if in IT ( your place ), the same (!!).
I can only get the ''Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person'',
when I go straight in Wikipedia and set it in italian.
That's why MC said that you are still filter-bubbled in other ways.

You can very easy use DDG without cookies just copy the Bookmarklet URL, when saving your prefs
in settings.

Off-topic:
by the way, that's a perfect name for your child...

[Sampei Nihira]

@ Sampei Nihira

I think that you say the same thing with MC, but in other words..

Startpage tracks your IP, your location and returns the more revelant results for you,
for your country, just like G does.

I can assure you that here, if startpage is set in EN, it returns the english version of
Wikipedia results, if in IT ( your place ), the same (!!).
I can only get the ''Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person'',
when I go straight in Wikipedia and set it in italian.
That's why MC said that you are still filter-bubbled in other ways.

You can very easy use DDG without cookies just copy the Bookmarklet URL, when saving your prefs
in settings.

Off-topic:
by the way, that's a perfect name for your child...

DuckDuckGo

INFORMATION COLLECTED

.....We also save searches, but again, not in a personally identifiable way, as we do not store IP addresses or unique User agent strings. We use aggregate, non-personal search data to improve things like misspellings......

https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

Startpage

....We don’t record your search queries....
....We don’t record your IP address.....
.....We don’t serve any tracking or identifying cookies....

https://www.startpage.com/it/search/privacy-policy.html

Off-topic:
thank you,
even though my daughter is 24 years old.

[gepus]

I could complain that Google's result is wrong, and that I expected it to give me a report of the Hurricane named Irene.

Why not? It's the fifth hit with Ecosia.

Irene

[adesh]

Sampei Nihira,

Of course, different search engines may return different search results because they are using different data sources. But you cannot say which ones are correct (or relevant for that matter), because it all depends on what the person is looking for. Search results are likely to differ more if the query has a higher degree of ambiguity.

You highlighted that DuckDuckGo saves your searches, but you missed the more important part - in a non-personally identifiable way, i.e. they don't save your IP address and stuff. They can of course collect some data to improve their service, remember that they are not trying to track you. So, effectively they are as private as the other search engine. Now, it's up to you to decide which one you want to use. We are happy with DuckDuckGo.

[rickmv]

The bottom line is a potential customer contacted them.

Calling yourself a "customer" of a public free web site is a little (more) too pretentious. More like a millionth visitor or an user at most.

And even with the Italian language the results of DuckDuckGo are very different from those of Google for a simple sentence like my daughter's name.
How can I trust this search engine !!

Just look at the Wikipedia results for the name Irene.
Only StartPage and Google indicate the correct search terms:

"Irene is a proper name of a feminine Italian person.........."

DuckDuckGo explains nothing and only shows a list of people named Irene ......

Going on an article about web search privacy and then comparing the search results using a person given name as search term is like reading about brain surgery and then comparing intelligence by the size of the skull.

What if SP (g00gle) was to return your home address from searching your daughter's name? Was that to be the most correct returned search result? Or the all seeing g00gle was just too subtle by telling you what country you're in without any preferences set on your computer and in the first returned result that the name you choose to give to your daughter is a proper one??

Off-topic:
Too many thumbdowns for just accesing or not a web page on Internet.

[Sampei Nihira]

I inserted a good guide in this 3D for the users of this forum.
I believe that improving our knowledge is an advantage for everyone.
How to change our beliefs over time if there is an improvement that was not there before.

I have not received any thanks for this service.
But it does not matter.

That said, everyone chooses the search engine they prefer.
My prolonged interventions, and I apologize for this, were partly caused by some incorrect information entered.

Thanks for your attention.

[snertev]

But this list of names is not grammatically the correct answer in my country.
So DuckDuckGo set in my language is very wrong,
because it is not able to define the etymology of a word.

The language setting is related to a language area not to a country.

AFAIK, according to ISO, you have to add a country suffix to the language one. For example:

IT-IT= Italian language, Italy
IT-CH= Italian language, Switzerland
FR-FR= French language, France
FR-CA=French language, Canada

In DuckDuckGo, the element "kl" in the search string can be used to set both language and country.

However, what you consider the right answer for "Irene" search term, it's indeed just an answer to that search.