Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

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Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Moonchild » 2026-05-03, 15:37

So, yeah. Free VPN? And who is paying for that?
"No extra cost". "extra" implies there's already a cost, though ;)
Anyway. no indication who operates the VPN or what's being logged or where it's routed through or anything. just "here have this free** service"
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-03, 15:53

Moonchild wrote:
2026-05-03, 15:37
So, yeah. Free VPN? And who is paying for that?
"No extra cost". "extra" implies there's already a cost, though ;)
Anyway. no indication who operates the VPN or what's being logged or where it's routed through or anything. just "here have this free** service"
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-03, 15:55

It's not the same old Mullvad VPN they've used before?

https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd80 ... irefox-vpn
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Moonchild » 2026-05-03, 17:13

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-03, 15:55
It's not the same old Mullvad VPN they've used before?
If it is, it's not advertised anywhere. The only thing that is mentioned anywhere is "Mozilla VPN" which implies their own, but considering the offers, I doubt it is operated by their staff on their infra (they would not have spun up the boasted 500 servers around the world)
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Night Wing » 2026-05-03, 19:06

I do not use a VPN now and I will not be using Firefox's VPN either, free or otherwise.
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Moonchild » 2026-05-03, 19:33

Night Wing wrote:
2026-05-03, 19:06
I do not use a VPN now and I will not be using Firefox's VPN either, free or otherwise.
The concern isn't necessarily that they offer it, but rather how they offer it. Baked into Firefox (i.e. vendor lock-in), tied to a Mozilla account, with no information of the operators of the service.
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-05-03, 21:11

Moonchild wrote:
2026-05-03, 19:33
...tied to a Mozilla account..
Right. I forgot this was a thing for chromium and firefox browsers. I've been using Pale Moon since almost the start. Having browser accounts seem weird and odd to me. Is this a thing for all downstream reskins/rebuilds of the aforementioned browsers?
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-05-03, 23:47

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-05-03, 21:11
Moonchild wrote:
2026-05-03, 19:33
...tied to a Mozilla account..
Right. I forgot this was a thing for chromium and firefox browsers. I've been using Pale Moon since almost the start. Having browser accounts seem weird and odd to me. Is this a thing for all downstream reskins/rebuilds of the aforementioned browsers?
It’s practically impossible to remove Google accounts from Chromium (excluding Ungoogled Chromium), though nearly all FF forks don’t have “Mozilla accounts”
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Re: Firefox 150 comes with a Free VPN

Post by Mæstro » 2026-05-04, 02:04

Moonchild wrote:
2026-05-03, 15:37
just "here have this free** service"
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What? Don’t you like free stuff? Who doesn’t want free stuff? If it’s free, it’s for me!
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