Identifying PerformanceObserver's Invasiveness

[vannilla]

I was thinking about the latest issue about how missing PO (PerformanceObserver) can make an entire website disappear (Javascript deleting the content on error, etc.).

We know the core of the problem is framework requiring a "debugging" and potentially privacy-invasive features in order to work normally, effectively making an invisible tracker a necessity to use the Web. At the same time, it seems no activist for privacy et al. is making so much as a whisper about any of it.

I think, people don't realize this is a thing because they use Firefox or some Chromium derivative, both of which have POs working in full, so they do not know which sites use them; due to the extreme (and often unnecessary) breadth of the Javascript API they might even not know at all about PO's existence.

I myself don't have much of a reach inside the activism circle and this forum specifically doesn't seem to either, but I know a few users here and there do have some contacts, even just knowing the name of someone or other.

I believe it would be beneficial if anyone with enough expertise could describe the extent of PO's invasion of privacy and write a proof of concept (can be multiple people), that way a "proper" (for a lack of a better word) description of the issue can be shared as a single unit and hope someone report on it.

What do you think?

[Gemmaugr]

Well, as you can probably guess (https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 83#p266917), I'm completely for doing a write-up of this kind. Don't have the skills or connections myself either though. All I can do at most is look things up and follow red threads.

It seems this is a a default inclusion in Meta's (which is now Linux Foundation's) React site framework (https://reactnative.dev/docs/global-PerformanceObserver), and the most used site framework at 6% (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... kin=vector).
Facebook/Meta/Instragram notoriously only working properly on the latest chromium versions and FB being a part of Big Tech/GAFAM/FAANG.
React Framework can be used with React.JS, now React Router (owned by Shopify) or Vue.js (both being dependent on googles V8 javascript).
It's hailed as a competitor to Next and Node.js (which also run on googles V8 javascript engine) and even googles own Angular (V8 javascript engine).
Those are 5 of the top 8 most used site frameworks (https://www.statista.com/statistics/112 ... works-web/).
PerformanceObserver was introduced first by google in google chrome 52 in 2016/06/21 (https://caniuse.com/mdn-api_performanceobserver "date relative" tab).

Maybe the write-up should include a list of privacy-invasive API's released by google like Privacy Sandbox, FLoC, Topics, WEI, etc. It for sure needs some eye-catching term to liken it to googles similar no-cookie tracking initiatives.

Here are some sites describing what it does (though positively sadly):

https://plainsignal.com/glossary/performanceobserver

https://web.dev/articles/custom-metrics

https://github.com/GoogleChrome/web-vit ... e#overview

A good site to put out some feelers on would of course be https://news.ycombinator.com/news

[vannilla]

Yeah, the history and high level explanation are known... but I was looking for more practical data. I'm no expert on "red team" privacy violation so I wouldn't really be able to build anything more than some hand waving explanation.

[Gemmaugr]

Thought this thread could also be used to document on which sites PerformanceObserver is now required:

https://store.steampowered.com/

https://www.reddit.com/

https://github.com/

[solitude]

Thought this thread could also be used to document on which sites PerformanceObserver is now required:

https://store.steampowered.com/

https://www.reddit.com/

https://github.com/

GitHub works fine on Pale Moon for me without PerformanceObserver enabled, tho?

[Gemmaugr]

GitHub works fine on Pale Moon for me without PerformanceObserver enabled, tho?

Tested it again, and it does seem like you're right.
I was fooled by entries not showing anything when I expected them to, like https://github.com/NMSCD/nms-archive/bl ... LOBAL.MBIN