Keeping my stats tidy in Pale Moon

[Bylly]

Hi
I’ve been using Pale Moon for a while and it’s great for customisation, but keeping all my info and stats organised is a nightmare. Links, numbers, stuff to show for collaborations… it piles up fast. I’ve managed to gather most of it in a single page that updates itself automatically, just enough to keep things clear without having to tweak files all the time. How do you lot keep your data clean and accessible in the browser without adding heavy extensions or breaking anything?

[Mæstro]

During academic or personal research, I try to keep related webpages, which might include figures or articles, open in tabs, collecting related subjects near one another. Discarding tabs, or even whole groups of them, when they lose relevance is much less headache than keeping them as bookmarks. Six or eight tabs at once is usual for a given topic. Permanent bookmarks are now few (32, including one known to have rotten), and tend to serve an unrelated purpose for me: an art museum of web design. Seven were added in 2022, four from this year and none from intervening years.

[jarsealer]

I have a lot of bookmarks, more than half of which I've never touched and are tucked in the bookmarks menu or "other bookmarks", which I rarely look at. My tool bar has 2 live bookmarks and 3 folders, one is for Pale Moon related sites like the forum, other two contain sites that I've saved for reading, or watching later for media. I've created tags for different bookmarks to sort them easier by topic, but I think folders are better at doing that. Keeping multiple tabs open to work on and saving them across sessions seems more efficient for browsing, also grouping your tabs (https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/tabgroups/) might be useful for some.

[Mæstro]

The figure of 32 bookmarks is for my bookmarks under unsorted bookmarks (is it called other in English?), and omits three links to regularly used sites which are kept direct in the menu, viz scriptless LibreTranslate and Wayback Machine frontends and another scriptless (unless Cloudflare-blocked; it varies by VPN server) website mirror. Many years ago, I kept thousands of bookmarks, many themselves unopened for years, and tried to organise them into folders, chiefly according to academic subject, but I found a great purge, which lasted for months or years and evidently has consumed 99% of the lot, was the true way to bring order. I have sometimes experimented with Tab Groups before, always when I wanted to keep academic and personal research topics separate, but it failed to embed itself into my routine. I pause regularly in my work, and tab groups made these frequent transitions much more tedious.

[Night Wing]

I think I'm around 1000 bookmarks on my Bookmarks Toolbar. And I eventually get around to using them "all". Just depends on the day and what I am working on for that day. I don't usually keep many tabs open. Just two or on a rare occasion, three tabs.

When it comes to the Pale Moon Preferences in linux Pale Moon, once they are set to my liking when I install Pale Moon in a linux distro, I really never change them. Ditto for "about:config"

[Gemmaugr]

I was wondering what was meant by stats.. But yeah, I use bookmarks quite a lot. I don't even know the exact count, but the FEBE backup files are 1430KB (HTML) and 1945KB (JSON) respectively.

I sort them into general category folders and then specifically labelled folders for long term storage. Middle term storage gets into the general folders, while the temp ones get the unnamed [Folder Name] at the root of Bookmarks. I delete or review and place as I go. I also use Speed Dial as homepage with 8 groups a 9. My daily routine is just typing shorthand into the URL bar. I never use session restore except for the rare crash, nor do I have Pale Moon running constantly. I may not shut down my computer every day, but I do shut down most programs when I go to bed.

You could maybe look into something like https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/scrapbook-x/

[Lucio Chiappetti]

Yes, I also did not understand what you mean by stat(istic)s (?).
But if it is lists of sites visited often or not so often, i.e. bookmarks, my advice is to organize (menu Bookmarks-> Organize bookmarks !!) them in foiders and subfolders. Also you can keep bookmarks both in the bookmark menu (also articulated in folders) and one the bookmarks toolbar where items can also be folders with eventual subfolders.

[moonbat]

If you're in the habit of taking notes alongside web links, you might find Scrapbook X useful. It lets you add annotations, highlights and save pages offline (the latter has mixed results now given the 'turn everything into an app' approach that Google pushes).

[Night Wing]

But yeah, I use bookmarks quite a lot. I don't even know the exact count, but the FEBE backup files are 1430KB (HTML) and 1945KB (JSON) respectively.

My Bookmarks Toolbar which I use for bookmarks addresses, size wise, I have around 278 KB (JSON). I do not use HTML for bookmarks. Been doing it this way since I started using Pale Moon 4.0 when I was running the Windows operating system at that time.

[frostknight]

I think I'm around 1000 bookmarks on my Bookmarks Toolbar. And I eventually get around to using them "all". Just depends on the day and what I am working on for that day. I don't usually keep many tabs open. Just two or on a rare occasion, three tabs.

When it comes to the Pale Moon Preferences in linux Pale Moon, once they are set to my liking when I install Pale Moon in a linux distro, I really never change them. Ditto for "about:config"

Who has a thousand bookmarks?!?

Lol.

[Night Wing]

I think I'm around 1000 bookmarks on my Bookmarks Toolbar. And I eventually get around to using them "all". Just depends on the day and what I am working on for that day. I don't usually keep many tabs open. Just two or on a rare occasion, three tabs.

When it comes to the Pale Moon Preferences in linux Pale Moon, once they are set to my liking when I install Pale Moon in a linux distro, I really never change them. Ditto for "about:config"

Who has a thousand bookmarks?!?

Lol.

If you surf around some of the topics for Pale Moon, you will see some of my posts where I show my Bookmarks Toolbar. On the toolbar, there are folders covering many different topics and there are many different website addresses as bookmarks in those topics.

And in those folders are sub folders with again, many different website addresses. But in some of those sub folders are sub, sub folders with again many more different website addresses.

But I will give you an example of just one folder. It is my "Sleep" folder where I have many different YouTube sleep videos which help me put myself to sleep when I am "over tired" because I cannot get to sleep since I have been awake "continuously" for sometimes 28-35 hours at a stretch.

This usually happens when I have been up for 18 hours and a few customers need some computer work done as in "the next day". So I stay up all night and get the job done for them. But those customers pay a premium price for their "gotta have the next day". This usually happens when they get in touch with me on a Sunday afternoon and they need it by 12 noon on Monday.

In my "Sleep" folder there are no sub folders so there are no sub, sub folders.

I pick one sleep video where the sound volume is turned down low enough so my brain can get in sync with the video to help me go to sleep. If I make the volume too high, the sound will keep me awake. In other words, a strategic balance between low and high volume.

I will now list some of those addresses, which are links, so you can take a look at them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wYtJwDkKIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hbEkPZuJl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNSZgkkEqRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNOCqKDTZUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nBFKH3qhGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2a-RDhoxGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg4niYQCCVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanrNd8Pygs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81iRGxYAmMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOwwExzrVyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twHB6vKU4TM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7in-xgI4PTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmmsPOdfS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAcbwxpsW6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpZrdQL5gnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBqU9n-PzuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCer1x6QJZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBeCRM-mQQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQl7S3K3Nsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MD_XgjYz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGiBlyQ3x-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qsUvCmA7PI

[moonbat]

Who has a thousand bookmarks?!?

I have about 1500, exported from my del.icio.us account going back to 2006. Beats those weirdos having a thousand open tabs, that are just one crash from being lost for good

[Octopuss]

Do I read it correctly that some of you use bookmarks toolbar instead of the regular bookmarks menu? Interesting concept.

[Lucio Chiappetti]

I use both for slightly different purposes

[Gemmaugr]

I decided to look a little deeper, and found how to count them all. Go to Bookmarks > Organize Bookmarks > Import and Backup > Restore, and you'll see exactly how many you have (and their size, which isn't the same as in FEBE apparentely). I have 3907 bookmarks at 754KB.

[Night Wing]

Do I read it correctly that some of you use bookmarks toolbar instead of the regular bookmarks menu? Interesting concept.

I use the Bookmarks Toolbar instead of the Bookmark Menu because it takes me two left clicks to get what I want and go to it. Even with sub and sub sub folders in the main topic folder, it still takes me two left clicks.

And the Bookmarks Toolbar is always in front of me listing all of my 28 main topic folders "horizontally" because I am using a desktop tower computer connected to a 32" external monitor.

At the end of this post, you can see my Bookmarks Toolbar.

Take my "Surf-V" folder listed on my Bookmarks Toolbar. In it there are "sub folders". So I left click on the Surf-V folder. But once I move my mouse cursor over the sub folder in it, it opens up "without" me doing a left click. So I find what I want in the sub folder, do another left click on the topic (link) and it takes me to where I want to go to.

[back2themoon]

...it takes me two left clicks to get what I want

You can further reduce those clicks with the excellent Responsive Bookmarks Toolbar extension.

No "modern" browser can do this.

[Night Wing]

You can further reduce those clicks with the excellent Responsive Bookmarks Toolbar extension.

I am not one of those who has lots of extensions for Pale Moon. I only have and use two extensions. Those two are uBlock Origin 1.16.6.1 and Zoom Label (1.3). And the Responsive Bookmarks Toolbar was created and maintained by JustOff.

He is from Ukraine and we have not heard from him since Putin's Russia invaded Ukraine so he might be "deceased". I am leery of old extensions which might not be maintained anymore. It looks like this extension was last updated on October 21 of 2021. Eventually it might not work when newer versions of Pale Moon are released.

Besides, I only need two mouse clicks when using my Bookmarks Toolbar and I do not think I will "break my right forefinger" or "fatigue that forefinger" when doing so.

[UCyborg]

I have cca. 34 active extensions, cca. 20 of those haven't been changed in a long time.

[Night Wing]

I have cca. 34 active extensions, cca. 20 of those haven't been changed in a long time.

But I remember some extensions, including the ones I was using, quit working when Pale Moon went from version 30 to version 31 due to changes in the browser at that time.