Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

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Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2025-04-30, 18:05

Hello,as the title says, will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?
I read today that Firefox is adding this functionality due to user input:
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab ... community/
I use this feature on Chrome on Android and find it very useful.
Hence my question about Pale Moon.
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2025-04-30, 18:52

Tab Groups used to be a part of Firefox a very long time ago. When they removed it, it was made available to Pale Moon as the Tab Groups extension, which has been around since Pale Moon 25:

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/tabgroups/
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2025-04-30, 19:11

Nigaikaze wrote:
2025-04-30, 18:52
Tab Groups used to be a part of Firefox a very long time ago. When they removed it, it was made available to Pale Moon as the Tab Groups extension, which has been around since Pale Moon 25:

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/tabgroups/
I wonder why they removed this feature.
Thank you very much, I'll check out this extension.

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-04-30, 19:48

And we can have this as an extension because... our extensions are just better ;)
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2025-04-30, 19:52

Moonchild wrote:
2025-04-30, 19:48
And we can have this as an extension because... our extensions are just better ;)
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by vannilla » 2025-04-30, 21:49

When I saw the news I was thinking: "I wonder if it can be replicated with XUL", and in fact...

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-04-30, 23:39

This again shows the insanity of their dumping XUL and instead bloating the browser with more and more features. I for one have no use for tab groups and so have not installed that extension whereas as a Firefox user it would still be taking up resources; likewise if you ask 50 people what they want, you'll get 50 different lists of wanted features. Letting these features be extensions caters to everyone without any unwanted overlap.
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Nuck-TH » 2025-05-01, 12:18

vannilla wrote:
2025-04-30, 21:49
When I saw the news I was thinking: "I wonder if it can be replicated with XUL", and in fact...
Whole UI runs on it. It isn't replicating - it is just tailor cutting something out and packaging it as extension.

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2025-05-06, 06:56

Nigaikaze wrote:
2025-04-30, 18:52
Tab Groups used to be a part of Firefox a very long time ago. When they removed it, it was made available to Pale Moon as the Tab Groups extension, which has been around since Pale Moon 25:

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/tabgroups/
Updated on August 22, 2018

I guess we're shit out of luck :(

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Nuck-TH » 2025-05-06, 08:37

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-06, 06:56
Updated on August 22, 2018

I guess we're shit out of luck :(
It doesn't work? We're currently on PM28 "branch"(as in UXP) and application gui didn't significantly changed since.

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-05-06, 09:14

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-06, 06:56
Updated on August 22, 2018
For as long as you've been around you still don't seem to understand extensions.
Pale Moon's GUI doesn't change much (at all), by design. GUI extensions therefore often don't need updates because we don't constantly break them. Get out of your Firefox mindset.
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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by UCyborg » 2025-05-06, 09:33

I love that aspect, update Pale Moon and these types of extensions just continue to work. Update Firefox, start digging what userChrome scripts, CSS etc. broke and need fixing.

Regarding tab groups, I don't remember playing with all knobs, but doesn't implementation of extension for Australis UI (used by Basilisk and friends) have more settings to play with?

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2025-05-14, 05:58

Moonchild wrote:
2025-05-06, 09:14
LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-06, 06:56
Updated on August 22, 2018
For as long as you've been around you still don't seem to understand extensions.
No I don't, because I don't care how they work internally and I am not a programmer, so I wouldn't anyway. Say 8 out of 10 times I ever tried to use something (any software) that was this old it only brought problems. An extension messes with the main program's code, so it's suspicious to me. I am rather safe than sorry, and this feature not being critical to me, I'll rather pass.

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Re: Will Pale Moon add support for tab groups?

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-05-14, 07:46

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-14, 05:58
No I don't, because I don't care how they work internally and I am not a programmer,
Which is why a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and you shouldn't assume something written for Pale Moon, not Firefox or Chrome is broken just because it hasn't been updated. You could've asked if it still worked. How often have you had this happen with extensions on Pale Moon; does it strike you as a browser that breaks things with every update? Again given you've been a long time user.
LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-14, 05:58
Say 8 out of 10 times I ever tried to use something (any software) that was this old it only brought problems.
PEBKAC :roll:
LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-14, 05:58
An extension messes with the main program's code
No, it does not. It's a separate piece of code that the browser loads. If the extension is buggy and you remove it, nothing happens to the main browser. Again, back to little knowledge = dangerous thing.
LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2025-05-14, 05:58
this feature not being critical to me, I'll rather pass
That is exactly what makes extensions so much better - every user can pick and choose any combination of the extra features they want if these features are implemented as extensions instead of the browser core where it would add to the bloat and be forced on everyone even if they didn't want it. I don't use tab groups either but it's there for those who want it while the rest of us can benefit from not having browser code we don't need.
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