DuckDuck go sucks, I'm going back to Google :(

General project discussion.
Use this as a last resort if your topic does not fit in any of the other boards but it still on-topic.
Forum rules
This General Discussion board is meant for topics that are still relevant to Pale Moon, web browsers, browser tech, UXP applications, and related, but don't have a more fitting board available.

Please stick to the relevance of this forum here, which focuses on everything around the Pale Moon project and its user community. "Random" subjects don't belong here, and should be posted in the Off-Topic board.
User avatar
athenian200
Contributing developer
Contributing developer
Posts: 1625
Joined: 2018-10-28, 19:56
Location: Georgia

Re: DuckDuck go sucks, I'm going back to Google :(

Post by athenian200 » 2024-08-16, 06:31

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2024-08-15, 19:12
So after using Google for about a week, I remembered another reason why I switched to DDG: It's so fucking slow in PM I want to smash things. just like Youtube and FB, it's a complete pathetic lag fest.
And what's more, the retards changed it so that you get "all" results by default instead of web, so instead of let's say questionably ordered search results I get a full page of pictures, video previews, shopping shit and whatnot, followed by actual links you'd expect. That also makes the whole thing even more laggy than before. I couldn't find any setting that would change the default category to "web" (there's a tab/link for that at the top of the page).
Fuck this shit.
Really, WTF are they thinking?
This is kind of what I was trying to hint at... that we're in this frustrating place right now where most of the alternatives to Google are not able to deliver Google-quality search results, but Google itself is also getting worse and harder to use because Google has no real competition and no incentive to improve. So what we're getting is a world where it's harder and harder to find things in general no matter what you use, because nothing can catch up to Google while Google's own experience degrades.

I'm not saying you have a moral obligation to use DDG or anything else, you totally don't. But the whole mentality of "use Google because it works and everything else sucks," is how we got here in the first place, and continuing to do it won't change anything. If you're happy with Google... fine, no need to advertise it, I'm sure millions of people are happy with it. But people here are more in the camp of wanting to resist Google at the cost of inconveniencing themselves, so don't be surprised if you get some push back when you tell people they should just "be practical and use Google." That is what 99% of the world does anyway, that's the default. It's not even an interesting thing to say... that's why they call a search "Googling."

Like, sure, sometimes if I can't find a result on Bing or any other alternative, I might check on Google, but it's a last resort. Sort of like if I can't get a website to work in Pale Moon, I'll fire up Edge or Firefox instead. It's like, you do what you can, you know? That's how I've always seen it.
"The Athenians, however, represent the unity of these opposites; in them, mind or spirit has emerged from the Theban subjectivity without losing itself in the Spartan objectivity of ethical life. With the Athenians, the rights of the State and of the individual found as perfect a union as was possible at all at the level of the Greek spirit." -- Hegel's philosophy of Mind

User avatar
moonbat
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 5746
Joined: 2015-12-09, 15:45

Re: DuckDuck go sucks, I'm going back to Google :(

Post by moonbat » 2024-08-16, 06:37

I've always used Startpage when I want Google results. Since it proxies Google, there's no results personalization and AFAICT the Gemini bullshit is filtered as well.
"One hosts to look them up, one DNS to find them and in the darkness BIND them."

Image
KDE Neon on a Slimbook Excalibur (Ryzen 7 8845HS, 64 GB RAM)
AutoPageColor|PermissionsPlus|PMPlayer|Pure URL|RecordRewind|TextFX
Jabber: moonbat@hot-chili.net

User avatar
somdcomputerguy
Lunatic
Lunatic
Posts: 407
Joined: 2014-02-23, 17:25
Location: Greenbrier County, West Virginia

Re: DuckDuck go sucks, I'm going back to Google :(

Post by somdcomputerguy » 2024-08-16, 16:37

The phrase "google it" used to be part of my vocabulary, that phrase is now "duck it". :mrgreen:
:cool: -bruce /* somdcomputerguy.com */
'If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.'