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Really Man?

Unread post by Marcus » 2024-03-07, 23:31

Have you seen this one? Stupid condescending pricks.
https://silverfox.neocities.org/really

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by suzyne » 2024-03-08, 00:09

Wow, they made a browser theme. I am so impressed.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-03-08, 00:24

Why would anyone want to use old Chromium more than new Chromium? I don't get it... I find the idea that people could have nostalgia for older Chrome a bit weird.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-03-08, 00:26

You just quadrupled their annual page visits by posting this link.

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-03-08, 00:36

Apparently they redirect you to that page if you are using Internet Explorer or Pale Moon... so they are lumping Pale Moon in with Internet Explorer...
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by billmcct » 2024-03-08, 00:44

Here's what shows in LibreWolf:
Shows the same in Basilisk.
Also SeaMonkey latest.
Also Waterfox classic.
Firefox 115.x.x
Chrome 109.x.x
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-03-08, 00:49

What's not obvious if you follow this link to the rock directly, is that this is what you get redirected to if you visit the main page. They have this stupid script here...

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// Redirects PaleMoon and all versions of IE to Rock Easter Egg

var isPaleMoon = navigator.userAgent.indexOf("PaleMoon") !== -1;

if (isPaleMoon) {
            window.location.href = "https://silverfox.neocities.org/really";
}


if (/*@cc_on!@*/false || (!!window.MSInputMethodContext && !!document.documentMode)){window.location.href="https://silverfox.neocities.org/really";}
So it is explicitly checking for Pale Moon via navigator.userAgent here, and using some convoluted method I don't understand to block Internet Explorer.

Gotta hand it to them, they really do manage to combine all the awfulness of Chrome and Firefox in a way that neither of those projects can manage independently. They have the worst of both... Chrome UI and Firefox engine. The other way around would be better...
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-03-08, 00:57

billmcct wrote:
2024-03-08, 00:44
Here's what shows in LibreWolf:
Shows the same in Basilisk.
Also SeaMonkey latest.
Also Waterfox classic.
Firefox 115.x.x
Chrome 109.x.x

LibreWolf.png
Haha, poor SeaMonkey. Getting called out as IE is a low blow.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by mrnhmath » 2024-03-08, 02:09

I wouldn't give those mom-and-pop rebuilds of Chrome any time of my day.

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-03-08, 03:48

mrnhmath wrote:
2024-03-08, 02:09
I wouldn't give those mom-and-pop rebuilds of Chrome any time of my day.
That's the worst part, it's not even a rebuild of Chrome... it's Firefox masquerading as an older version of Chrome.
"The Athenians, however, represent the unity of these opposites; in them, mind or spirit has emerged from the Theban subjectivity without losing itself in the Spartan objectivity of ethical life. With the Athenians, the rights of the State and of the individual found as perfect a union as was possible at all at the level of the Greek spirit." -- Hegel's philosophy of Mind

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by FranklinDM » 2024-03-08, 08:46

On the flip side, it's funny that they have to compile and customize Firefox from source just to achieve what Pale Moon can do out of the box with complete themes like PMChrome.

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-03-08, 10:51

More irony if you think about it: they are trying to market a browser, but are blocking people on other browsers from visiting their site :think: :lol:
I guess they didn't get the memo that a browser download site must be as accessible with any browser as possible.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-03-08, 15:05

Opened a GitHub issue here.
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viewtopic.php?f=61&p=230756

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by billmcct » 2024-03-08, 15:56

I don't know if anyone noticed the tab icon on the website. It's Google Chromes Icon.
I guess you have to use the latest and sorriest version of Chrome to access it without an redirect.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by therube » 2024-03-08, 17:05

Apparently they redirect you to that page if you are using Internet Explorer or Pale Moon
Or even in Firefox (or Chrome or ...) - if you're using NoScript (or uBlock, or ... to block JavaScript).

(But... don't try that in PM ;-).)

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-03-08, 17:31

therube wrote:
2024-03-08, 17:05
Or even in Firefox (or Chrome or ...) - if you're using NoScript (or uBlock, or ... to block JavaScript).

(But... don't try that in PM ;-).)
It doesn't do that when blocking scripts with eMatrix in Pale Moon. That's odd.
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by gepus » 2024-03-08, 21:23

billmcct wrote:
2024-03-08, 15:56
I guess you have to use the latest and sorriest version of Chrome to access it without an redirect.
Nope.
It's rudimentary browser sniffing. If you fake your UserAgent to Firefox the site will work with Pale Moon too.(No redirection)
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by PseudoDistant » 2024-03-09, 01:19

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I really don't get what they're thinking...
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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by Eduardolucas1 » 2024-03-09, 03:40

As we say in Brazil: Envy is deadly.

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Re: Really Man?

Unread post by Daikun » 2024-03-09, 21:28

It's funny how opening the page in Edge still calls it Internet Explorer. :lol: