THX-1139 wrote: ↑2023-12-25, 16:28
Thanks for that "heads up"...Is there no way to pick and choose which updates you want? like with win7
Well, you can, but sometimes the system updates automatically and you don't see which updates it picked if you don't stay on top of it yourself. Generally major updates like Windows 11 aren't just automatic, but I figure it's best to play it safe. During Windows 10's lifecycle, what people were constantly complaining about were these big feature updates that would break things if you weren't careful to select the right update channel (saying you wanted to be on an SAC channel instead of testing all the major updates as soon as they came out). That is to say, you got a choice, but you had to be a bit more proactive to exercise it. Though really the feature updates never broke anything for me, I never had a very "fiddly" setup where things were likely to break.
At this point, though, 22H2 is the last release of Windows 10, so you don't have to worry very much... Windows 10 is stable and isn't going to change very much from here on out. You're upgrading so late in the lifecycle that you missed out on all the opportunities Microsoft would have to bust it with a feature update. LOL. Not that it ever gave me a lot of trouble, and I ran it from 2015 to the current day on an Ivy Bridge machine built in 2012, apparently the oldest officially supported.
Interesting, I wonder if I should Keep my win7 install as is and create a new partition and install a fresh win10 on it, Or would be better to install win 10 over the win7? (the 1st sounds better 2me)
If you want to keep Windows 7 and you're only using Windows 10 for games, then definitely keep your Windows 7 partition intact and do a fresh install of Windows 10. Installing Windows 10 over Windows 7 only makes sense if you want to replace Windows 7. Though really, you won't have to worry about Windows 10 updates aside from security updates anymore at this point, and the ability to "schedule an update time" has been implemented long ago, so if you're only staying on Windows 7 to have more control over updates, that shouldn't really be necessary.
Compatibility mode? I did not know that win10 had it, TY!
Yeah,
most Windows 7 features are still there in Windows 10, just sometimes under a Metro coat of paint that a lot of people think is ugly, and alongside stuff they don't care for. That part isn't something the detractors talk about... also, if your game supports DirectX 12, you finally can take advantage of that now (your old 1050Ti supported it since launch, as did your 1660). Windows 7 didn't support it, and there are a lot more games that take advantage of it now than there were before the PS5 launch and Windows 7 EOL.
That's good to know, and when I first started using win7 I had to do the same thing; DLL's etc.
Yeah, Windows upgrades have always been a pain. I remember having to mess with stuff like that when I upgraded from 98 to XP, and seeing a lot of things I didn't like... I dual-booted Windows 98 with KernelEx and Windows XP for the longest time, until I upgraded my RAM past 512MB and Windows 98 couldn't handle it... plus it seemed to crash a lot more, despite working better with my old stuff.
Yeah, when I bought the steam games I knew I was making a mistake (not a physical copy) and was at their whim whatever the changes
I would recommend buying older games that you think might work better on Windows 7, via GOG or something from now on. They sell DRM-free games that you'll always be able to install on an older OS, even if you lose access to their launcher. Not all games are listed, of course, but it's worth considering. With Steam you'll always be on the Microsoft treadmill... Steam is actually run by a former Microsoft employee, and it even supported the use of Windows Phone for Steam Guard (I actually used that), so I imagine they still have some kind of ties.
Do you have any thoughts about win10pro as opposed to the Home edition? Personally all my PC's are using the win7pro (even if they came with the standard installed) I just never liked the Home editions.
And any ideas about that installer I have? should/could I use it and then buy a pro version key online and then update to pro? or wait and do it from the pro key I buy? most of my past PC's started out using Home edition then I updated to pro and all was well...The same maybe for win10?
Windows 10 Home is really gimped, perhaps worse than even Windows 7 Home Edition. The Pro edition is better... but at this point if you're asking me to recommend an edition for someone upgrading from Windows 7 in 2023, I might actually have to steer you towards trying out Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021, if you can manage to buy a key for it legitimately. That version will be supported until 2027 (avoid LTSC 2019, it's based on an exceptionally crappy release of Windows 10). If you buy Windows 10 Pro, it will only be supported until October 2025, and if you're lucky, you'll wind up buying ESUs to keep getting security updates through 2028 (I've heard a lot of rumors that Microsoft is apparently extending the program to individuals with valid Pro licenses for Windows 10 EOL, after piloting it with enterprises on Windows 7) On the other hand, If you were fine running Windows 7 without updates, then it's quite possible you'll be able to do the same with Windows 10, in which case it doesn't matter and you can go with Pro, run Windows 10 for a year or two without support like you may have done with Windows 7. Just try not to become one of those people who do nothing but hack up old versions of Windows and run unsigned Chinese/Russian drivers for 20-year-old software on modern hardware... LOL.
Thanks for the input, it gives me a better idea of it overall.
*My apologies if my "Quoting" form is wrong or weird- it looks weird in the preview to me, but then I have always had problems with the quoting stuff. (my problem)
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