BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
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- Hobby Astronomer
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BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
These two sites used to work in most of my browser installs including Pale Moon, but have been updated sometime this year, and now do not, except in FireFox 68 or higher, and I do not use non-Mozilla-based browsers.
https://www.bmo.com/main/personal
https://www.timhortons.ca
In the case of BMO, the main page is there, but when I try to log into their online banking [dropdown menu near top right of page : Login > Online Banking], the address bar of the browser indicates that I have reached the login page, but the content of the window becomes blank white instead of presenting a form for me to fill with my creds.
At the Tim Hortons site, same symptoms, with even the front page now only showing blank white as content, as of a few days ago.
Please can anyone shed light as to the underlying problem, and whether I can do anything to resolve it, other than using an alternate browser ?
We have tested and confirmed that this issue exists with Pale Moon 31 and several earlier versions.
Thanks.
https://www.bmo.com/main/personal
https://www.timhortons.ca
In the case of BMO, the main page is there, but when I try to log into their online banking [dropdown menu near top right of page : Login > Online Banking], the address bar of the browser indicates that I have reached the login page, but the content of the window becomes blank white instead of presenting a form for me to fill with my creds.
At the Tim Hortons site, same symptoms, with even the front page now only showing blank white as content, as of a few days ago.
Please can anyone shed light as to the underlying problem, and whether I can do anything to resolve it, other than using an alternate browser ?
We have tested and confirmed that this issue exists with Pale Moon 31 and several earlier versions.
Thanks.
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- Hobby Astronomer
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
Hi. Quick look at BMO.
Console says:
And then:
Is this of any help to you guys?
ps: I suppose this topic should be posted in "Web Compatibility Support" subforum?
cheers/Wrolf
Console says:
ps: I suppose this topic should be posted in "Web Compatibility Support" subforum?
cheers/Wrolf
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- Hobby Astronomer
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
It is beyond my full understanding, though I take it that the term 'deprecated' is a way of saying that an error occurred.
As for moving this topic to the subforum, maybe appropriate, but I posted it here because the topics about the GMX webmail site had remained here as long as they have, and I followed in their footsteps.
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
I have found and looked at the 'Web Compatibility Support' subforum, and agree that this topic should be there rather than here.davesnothere wrote: ↑2022-10-18, 23:55....As for moving this topic to the subforum, maybe appropriate, but I posted it here because the topics about the GMX webmail site had remained here as long as they have, and I followed in their footsteps.
Is it possible to ask a Mod or Admin to move the topic ?
If yes, then please, I am asking.
Thanks.
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- Add-ons Team
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
I'm getting a different error. I'm assuming that this is the usage of global window event, but the sources are obfuscated so I can't say for sure:
Code: Select all
ReferenceError: customElements is not defined vendor.788985a1.chunk.js:2:3669350
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
If a programming construct has been ruled "deprecated" it means that a standards building body has ruled that it is old and shouldn't be used anymore. Might be because of bugs, security risks, or whatever.davesnothere wrote: ↑2022-10-18, 23:55I take it that the term 'deprecated' is a way of saying that an error occurred.
This, however, does not mean that people have to stop using it. Many happily go on using deprecated stuff, which sometimes leads to problems.
cheers!
/Wrolf
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Re: BMO and Tim Hortons sites Failures
I do not know whether both of these sites are failing for the same reason, but the ongoing lack of support of 'customElements' by Pale Moon is making it progressively harder for some of us to continue to use it as our primary browser.FranklinDM wrote: ↑2022-10-19, 08:43I'm getting a different error. I'm assuming that this is the usage of global window event, but the sources are obfuscated so I can't say for sure:Likely Issue #1344 (UXP).Code: Select all
ReferenceError: customElements is not defined vendor.788985a1.chunk.js:2:3669350
I still like Pale moon for plenty of other reasons, but when websites which I use every day/week/month stop working because they chose to invoke this class of code [for example], it has forced me to use other browsers just to access an increasing number of those sites, even though I may dislike the UI of the other browsers, and/or cannot use certain extensions with them which I have grown to know, like, and trust over the years.
So I must ask the now notorious question :
Please, will Pale Moon be supporting 'customElements' any time soon ?
Last year, it seemed that it would not be, from what I read in other topics here at the time.
As time passes, more and more sites are being broken for Pale Moon [and its forks] because of the non-support.