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Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article [Solved]

Posted: 2022-08-13, 18:23
by KanziBonobo
I am looking for third-party sources to reference in the Pale Moon Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is a common reference and Pale Moon's article has had a notice about inadequate references for a few years. The article currently has many "primary" sources which are accurate, specific, and official. These are fine. Wikipedia also expects articles to contain "secondary" sources that are independent and verifiable. Independent third-party references establish the notability or importance of the article within Wikipedia. Adding these sources will protect the article against deletions or mergers.

Here is a quote from Wikipedia on why they require third-party references:
Everything in Wikipedia must be verified in reliable sources, including statements about what subjects are important and why. To verify that a subject is important, only a source that is independent of the subject can provide a reliable evaluation. A source too close to the subject will always believe that the subject is important enough to warrant detailed coverage, and relying exclusively upon this source will present a conflict of interest and a threat to a neutral encyclopedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nt_sources

I made this account a while back to ask a question but am not currently a Pale Moon user. So I wanted to post this here to invite active users to help out. I do not plan to add any content to the article, just sources.

If you do not currently edit the wiki, you can post links, journal articles, or book titles in this thread and I will format and add them. During the next week or so, I plan to add at least 10 references from some combination of independent web sites, print articles, videos, and published books. Then I'll remove the template in Wikipedia and mark this thread as "solved".

Re: Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article

Posted: 2022-08-13, 20:00
by athenian200
The only good third-party reference I can think of that comes to mind is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Introductory-XUL ... 1304608700

It talks about Pale Moon and the Goanna engine a little bit in the 7th edition. Most of the other third-party sources that talk about Pale Moon are not that great and cast it in a negative light based on limited information.

Re: Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article

Posted: 2022-08-13, 20:42
by Moonchild
athenian200 wrote:
2022-08-13, 20:00
Most of the other third-party sources that talk about Pale Moon are not that great and cast it in a negative light based on limited information.
This is primarily because most of the third party "references" that people like are the likes of C|Net and similar "tech news" sources that have outright removed and banned Pale Moon publications through their umbrella (IGN, I believe) because I complained to one of their publication and download outlets about distributing Pale Moon with an ad-loaded stub loader that is against the redist licensing in place. There are independent articles otherwise but they aren't as easily discoverable as "big media" that spends millions on SEO.

Re: Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article

Posted: 2022-08-13, 21:01
by andyprough
Ghacks has covered Pale Moon extensively for many years. I see over 100 articles going back to 2013 on a very wide range of issues.

Re: Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article

Posted: 2022-08-14, 00:46
by KanziBonobo
That's perfect, thanks. The bit in the first chapter about Pale Moon being the most mature version of XUL is exactly what I was looking for. I've added it.

andyprough wrote:
2022-08-13, 21:01
Ghacks has covered Pale Moon extensively for many years. I see over 100 articles going back to 2013 on a very wide range of issues.
Thanks, I've added a couple of their articles as sources.
Moonchild wrote:
2022-08-13, 20:42
There are independent articles otherwise but they aren't as easily discoverable as "big media" that spends millions on SEO.
Yeah, I would imagine it's hard to compete with Google's budget. I was still able to find sources though. I posted a notice on the talk page and will remove the warning if nobody on WP objects.


I've marked the thread as solved. Thank you all for the assistance. 8-)


Edit: To be clear, I can still add additional sources if anyone has something they want to add but don't feel comfortable editing. The problem though is likely solved.

Re: Sources for Pale Moon Wikipedia Article [Solved]

Posted: 2022-08-14, 08:13
by Moonchild
Thanks for your help editing the article! It's extremely appreciated :)