Pale Moon forum

I searched the forum for my answer, but surprisingly didn't find anything relevant.

This is my first try at Pale Moon. As a long faithful Firefox user (mainly because of addons I wish to continue to use) I have grown weary of its bloat and the repercussions resulting, often needing to restart.

I notice there is no official download of Pale Moon for MacOS. I managed to find an unofficial version 29.0.1 on a site somewhere which is what I am typing this on. Can someone give me an overview of the development goals and present status for MacOS?

Also, am I able to run FF WebExtensions/Quantum (or whatever, ie, non-XUL/legacy extensions) on this version of Pale Moon I have? (Acknowledging of course the caveat that all extensions may not work.)

Also, will I be able to develop XUL extensions like the old days where I could pretty much make the browser do what I want to?

Thanks, looking forward to my try out of Pale Moon. I already like the L and F much better.

White Star is the Pale Moon fork for MacOS, although it remains to be seen whether White Star and Pale Moon may merge in the near future.

https://dbsoft.org/whitestar.php

Support for macOS was taken out some time ago, but there are plans to re-introduce it. Unfortunately it will take some time, so you cannot use it at the moment.
Current-day Firefox extensions do not work with Pale Moon and you can't hack your way around it, unlike old-day Firefox extensions. They are simply incompatible.
However, depending on the extension you need, you can either find a substitute in the official add-ons site for Pale Moon or use a Greasemonkey userscript.
Lastly, XUL extensions can quite literally do anything the browser can, so their limit is the person developing them and not the technology.

Likestofish wrote: ↑

2022-04-15, 20:49

White Star is the Pale Moon fork for MacOS, although it remains to be seen whether White Star and Pale Moon may merge in the near future.

https://dbsoft.org/whitestar.php

Can anyone tell me what the falling out was about with Pale Moon and the Whitestar dev?

Likestofish wrote: ↑

2022-04-15, 20:49

White Star is the Pale Moon fork for MacOS, although it remains to be seen whether White Star and Pale Moon may merge in the near future.

https://dbsoft.org/whitestar.php

Well, I tried Whitestar, it froze up completely upon first start up. I guess I'll continue using this "unofficial" build of PM (29.0.1) However, I am finding that the "spinning beach ball" occurs quite frequently while I using it, eg thumbnails loading on Youtube. I am not sure it is running any better than FF was; maybe a bit worse even. Perhaps when PM puts out a version for MacOS it will run better?

KevinJones wrote: ↑

2022-04-16, 07:21

Can anyone tell me what the falling out was about with Pale Moon and the Whitestar dev?

It was primarily just taking a different direction. I've changed my mind on that, and although it will cause more complexity to have Mac support in the platform code base it's just a broader base for everyone to use.

KevinJones wrote: ↑

2022-04-16, 07:33

I am finding that the "spinning beach ball" occurs quite frequently while I using it, eg thumbnails loading on Youtube.

Youtube is just problematic, period, ever since Google deliberately broke their "polymer" fallback code for browsers that don't support Google WebComponents causing very long delays on first load of the web page UI.

KevinJones wrote: ↑

2022-04-16, 07:33

I am finding that the "spinning beach ball" occurs quite frequently while I using it, eg thumbnails loading on Youtube

For Youtube, there's a userscript that fixes most problems it has, to use it first install Greasemonkey for Pale Moon and then click 'Install this user script' on the first URL I linked. It adds an extra tools menu and lets you customize the size of thumbnails, whether to bring back the like button and other features.

KevinJones wrote: ↑

2022-04-16, 07:33

Well, I tried Whitestar, it froze up completely upon first start up. I guess I'll continue using this "unofficial" build of PM (29.0.1) However, I am finding that the "spinning beach ball" occurs quite frequently while I using it, eg thumbnails loading on Youtube. I am not sure it is running any better than FF was; maybe a bit worse even. Perhaps when PM puts out a version for MacOS it will run better?

Not sure if Moonchild wants White Star discussion on his board, if not you can visit me at https://dbsoft.org/forum/

But I'd be happy to try and figure out why White Star isn't working on your system. Let me know if you want help!

dbsoft wrote: ↑

2022-05-13, 20:50

Not sure if Moonchild wants White Star discussion on his board, if not you can visit me at https://dbsoft.org/forum/

I'm fine with it, if it just so happens to land here. No worries